Twmccoy
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Had another field session today. On a lark I decided to add a 172g champion Groove I found in a lake a couple weeks ago. I haven't thrown a Groove in several years, and I feel the general dislike for the mold around here is justified.
I feel like I've been making some gains lately and throwing well. I wanted to see how a Groove might work when put on a variety of lines. The disc is fairly flat, just a hint of dome.
First thing I noticed was that the Groove doesn't glide really at all. The disc actually flew a nice looking S curve, but it didn't penetrate or glide. It would slow down toward the end of flight and limply fall to the ground. The Groove lost a lot of distance from this. I can't even really call it a fade. The disc just stopped going forward and fell straight down.
The Groove definitely has high speed turn. Thrown flat and hard the disc would turn fairly easily, sometimes all the way over. On several throws I blistered it straight into the ground. The disc is touchy. If you don't throw it hard enough to turn, it'll stall and fly badly. If the Groove starts turning, it usually keeps doing so for the entire flight.
The Groove has a weird hand feel. Compared to a Shryke or Katana I didn't like it. IDK if its the rim configuration or what, but I feel like the Groove flies slower than speed 13. Even when I felt like I mashed it the disc never really sizzled.
Overall, the Groove is as bad as I remember. It actually flies a decent line, but winds up WELL short of where I thought it would. The Groove also has an annoying tendency to flip over whenever you try to really power it up.
Groove: 12, 4, -2, 2. I took a number off for speed and glide. The Groove seems slow compared to other 13 speeds. It also glides rather poorly. My top distance with this disc today was probably right at 400'. It was not easy to achieve. The Groove is finicky and loves to flip over whenever you really lay into it. This disc is acceptable for holes where you're worried about losing some better disc, but I can't possibly recommend it as a main driver to anyone. The Groove is probably 50' shorter for me than other drivers of similar speed/stability.
Interestingly, this disc flew better than I was expecting. That said, it was still plenty bad. I would rate it as the worst performing high speed (12 or more) driver that Innova makes.
I feel like I've been making some gains lately and throwing well. I wanted to see how a Groove might work when put on a variety of lines. The disc is fairly flat, just a hint of dome.
First thing I noticed was that the Groove doesn't glide really at all. The disc actually flew a nice looking S curve, but it didn't penetrate or glide. It would slow down toward the end of flight and limply fall to the ground. The Groove lost a lot of distance from this. I can't even really call it a fade. The disc just stopped going forward and fell straight down.
The Groove definitely has high speed turn. Thrown flat and hard the disc would turn fairly easily, sometimes all the way over. On several throws I blistered it straight into the ground. The disc is touchy. If you don't throw it hard enough to turn, it'll stall and fly badly. If the Groove starts turning, it usually keeps doing so for the entire flight.
The Groove has a weird hand feel. Compared to a Shryke or Katana I didn't like it. IDK if its the rim configuration or what, but I feel like the Groove flies slower than speed 13. Even when I felt like I mashed it the disc never really sizzled.
Overall, the Groove is as bad as I remember. It actually flies a decent line, but winds up WELL short of where I thought it would. The Groove also has an annoying tendency to flip over whenever you try to really power it up.
Groove: 12, 4, -2, 2. I took a number off for speed and glide. The Groove seems slow compared to other 13 speeds. It also glides rather poorly. My top distance with this disc today was probably right at 400'. It was not easy to achieve. The Groove is finicky and loves to flip over whenever you really lay into it. This disc is acceptable for holes where you're worried about losing some better disc, but I can't possibly recommend it as a main driver to anyone. The Groove is probably 50' shorter for me than other drivers of similar speed/stability.
Interestingly, this disc flew better than I was expecting. That said, it was still plenty bad. I would rate it as the worst performing high speed (12 or more) driver that Innova makes.