I've been throwing a Star Mamba for 4 years now, 6 months after I started playing. My only ace was with the Mamba into a 20-mph headwind when I was still learning different molds, limited number of discs, and didn't know much better. My home course can have strong wind eight months of the year, so I've learned to play the wind with Mamba as with other disc. My favorite Mamba wind play is into a 45-degree headwind for a turn flip coming back across the fairway or with any helping crosswind for some of my longer throws all in the open. However, just how far offline nobody knows. I'm actually using it less, as I'm now more likely to use more reliable disc such as a Fission Wave or an S-line DD for wind play, and other options. Tomorrow, I'm not even bringing it with me for 15 mph wind, I have a new VIP Northman I'll use in its place. The Mamba is getting used less now, and more out of the bag, but it was a good learning experience when I was a new player.