dehaas
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Has Steady Ed peaked?
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Has Steady Ed peaked?
Hampstead
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Sure, it would have taken longer for frisbee golf to grow without his assistance, but it was doing alright on its own.
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He peaked when they put his ashes in discs.
Assuming that, in the absence of pole holes, and the PDGA (not to mention the beveled edge disc), frisbee golf would have survived and evolved into a competitive sport resembling the modern game, which, given Stork Roddick's description of the first AFDO, not to mention the precipitous drop in attendance between 1974 (52) and 1975 (10), is likely a highly questionable assumption.
Hampstead
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Simping for Steady?
biscoe
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They all started out of altruism but none of them can continue indefinitely without making some money. Same goes for me designing courses- were I not able to profit from it there is no way I could afford to continue to do it even though I started out doing it for free in the 90's. With money comes accountability as well (in many/most cases)- we can (and should) expect more from people getting paid for a task than from someone simply volunteering their limited time.
Sewer bill
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I took a 11 on a par 5 you designed I'd like to complain about it. Just kidding it was a fun course and it kicked my butt, were it not so far away I'd play it more.
I get the feeling there's not much profit in what goes into course design so I'm still putting it in that grey area of volunteer/passion motive.
This is a FACT!
If giving credit where credit is due is "simping," absolutely.
While one could plausibly argue that the contributions of other pioneers have been downplayed or overlooked, but a historically credible story of the transformation of frisbee golf from a casual pastime into an organized sport cannot be told without acknowledging Steady Ed as a prime mover in that transformation.
Would someone else eventually have invented a pole hole-like contraption, and someone else eventually have founded an organization like the PDGA? Would Wham-o have funnelled tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars into marketing frisbee sports without Steady Ed's championing? Maybe. Like it or not, Steady Ed did all three (and more), rendering such speculation moot.
You don't have to have liked Steady Ed or his influence on development of disc golf as a sport, but it's arrant nonsense to assert that the sport was doing fine without his involvement.
Hampstead
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He invented baskets to sell more frisbees. That is also a truth.
On latest Upshot Eisenhood mentions DGPT/DGN layoffs and reduction/elimination of their non-live content division. Perhaps these salaries were made redundant with Jomez acquisition? Or speak to continued financial precarity with the end of the COVID-boom/Ryan lawsuits?
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Sewer bill
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Buyouts/mergers always come with a big pile of layoffs as there are inevitably multiple redundant roles. I'm still blown away dgpt can even put on events though. Their equipment coordinator position for event setup and teardown is way below the going rate with no production bonuses.
My experience has been that the bulk of the DGPT event management labor is being done by the pre-existing local tournament staff/volunteers with DGPT mainly handling camera set-up and (sometimes) ticketing.
biscoe
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Since we were an off-season Silver Series at Lake Marshall we got the skeleton crew. I was still pretty blown away by the amount of resources they brought in and the guys they did send worked their tails off along with us on course setup, etc. Frankly I was expecting much less of them.
Pretty sure they always handle ticketing and payout.
Jonathan Gomez doing ad reads for DraftKings with a Jomez promo code on the DGPT videos. Pitching college football gambling, not disc golf. I assume they just bit on the general DraftKings partnership blast that went out to targeted creators but still an interesting step.
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His ad reads look like hostage videos to me.
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I really hate that you can't watch sports without seeing gambling ads all over the place lately. I saw that jomez promo and it really left a bad taste in my mouth.
BillFleming
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Nice part about YT is you can fast forward through the 'commercials'. I can 'slide' the bar at the bottom, watch the little viewscreen, and stop advancing when the 'commercial' is over.
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I also love this feature.
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I watch a bunch of YouTube so I just spring for the monthly (just went up to $14 and change,
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