I have two TLs, 3 S-FD's, 3 Rivers, a couple Stalkers and a pile of TB's that I like to rip into a field before my weekend rounds. My Star TL is my disc-in-bag for this slot, but it takes a little hyzer flip. My Champ TL+ is great off a flat release, and has a bit more glide. As far as I can tell, the only difference between the TL and FD is that the FD is a little domier. I like the handfeel of the TL better, the way my thumb sits on the plate is more comfortable. With the FD I'm always denting the top trying to get a comfortable grip.