when I started throwing DC I did replace the orc with a crush... never hear much about that disc is it OOP?
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when I started throwing DC I did replace the orc with a crush... never hear much about that disc is it OOP?
Out of curiosity, what's wrong with the current run Orc's? I have 6 of them (None real domey) and it's my favorite control driver, but I've never seen or used one of these old molds, so maybe I don't know what I'm missing?
Anyway, the closest thing to an Orc I've thrown is a PD (little more HSS stable) and a Tesla, but the Tesla has a shallower rim.
when I started throwing DC I did replace the orc with a crush... never hear much about that disc is it OOP?
The old z wildcats sorta reminded me of orcs
My form is no where near the same as when I threw Orcs, but it does seem to me the Wrath is very similar.
I don't get the Escape/Saint comparisons. They have much less HSS to me.
I've thrown quite a few orcs including the flat pearlies and escapes are considerably less stable. Escapes have to be thrown with a hyzer release to fly close to the stability of orcs.
Nah, they're very close in stability. Orc's aren't really that OS. I throw the Orc and Escape together in practice all the time, and they're interchangeable in my bag. Lucid Escape, bud. Now the Saint is noticeably less stable than the Escape or Orc.
wait, so how are the new Beasts flying? Are we talking about the JL beasts? Did they mold get an update/changed back?
Lol ok bud.
The two moonshine I had were LESS stable then the old pearly orcs I have had, current champ orcs may be a different story I've never thrown one. But old orcs are more os then the two moonshine escapes I had.
Escape is a speed 9, and is considered stable. I would compare it to a Viking before I would ever compare it to an Orc.
I don't think Orc's are as overstable as you're giving them credit for. I had 2 flat JL-ish Orc's(from about 3 years ago) that would turn pretty easily, my current champ(1 year) has a normal dome and is more stable, like an Orc should be, but hardly OS.
As for the Escape, I'm not saying it's OS, I mentioned the -1 HSS, 2 LSS numbers it's rated at by Lat64 earlier. For me, it flies a lot like my Orc.
Where's this coming from that Orc's are overstable?