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Yes, that's what rule 803.04E is all about.
E. If a large solid obstacle prevents a player from taking a legal stance within 30 centimeters
directly behind the marker disc, the player shall take his or her stance immediately
behind that obstacle on the line of play. The player must comply with all the provisions of
803.04 A other than being within 30 centimeters directly behind the marker disc.
really? lol :wall:
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Never underestimate the amount of fun alawyercop has playingdevil's advocate.grand theft auto
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but 803.04E doesn't say to place the marker disc, and it specifically says to comply with all the provisions of 803.04 A except being within 30 cm of the marker. So it would seem like placing the mini behind the tree having the disc in front of it would not comply with the rule. How is it possible to place the mini behind the tree when the disc lands in front of the tree, and also comply with the rule as written below?
pedantic?
I've got a question that came up in ball golf once. What if an animal moves your disc? Will you have to guess about where it was or play from wherever the animal moves it.
Look to the solid object rule 803.04E for the answer. This is the one case where JenB's slipping the mini under the disc is allowed. When you take relief on the line of play as you move behind a solid object, although the rule says "immediately behind" the object, the rule that you need to mark your lie would imply you can place the mini right up against the back of the solid object. So you would at least get the width of your mini relief from it.
In the same way, if your thrown disc is up against a tree trunk where there's not room for a mini other than laying it vertically up the tree trunk (which I've done before the rule allowed using your thrown disc as the marker), you would be allowed to place the mini flat on the ground which in essence moves your lie back the width of the mini. You would really have to want to throw that disc again though to do this since leaving the disc would give you more relief back from the tree to make your next throw.