[Mids] Stable (straight) mid to complement my Roc cycle?

[clard]

Md3 is buzzzish in the right plastic. The swirly s lines are nearly exactly like what you want.

 

[Jukeshoe]

I was all set to say Comet until you started the ceiling talk.

I know you want a mid, but have you looked at the Axiom Proxy at all? Super stable at any power and no fade to speak of unless you force it. I recently benched mine because it was taking shots away from my Rocs, and I love throwing Rocs too much to find a faster mid setup.

Was also going to say comet....though I don't think the ceiling's that big of an issue.

 

[pjhayes7]

Dx roc3 may work. Soon to be released and the roc3 mold is straighter otb than a Rancho roc so Dx should be a straighter version of this mold, plus it keeps the same feel as your rocs.

 

[DiscinFiend]

San Marino Roc

Really?!?! What plastic do you recommend? I have minimal experience with San Marinos. I feel in love with Ranchos & have pretty much just stuck with them. I never would have guessed that there was that much of a difference between the older Roc variations (Rancho, San Marino, Ontario) besides the change in stability.

Also, I have been in the exact same boat as you for years. Now I use a roc3.

You don't like roc3s?

I guess I just haven't considered it for this role. I have a few, I'm guess I'm gonna have to go out & throw them again. I only have 2x & 3x Champion Roc3s. I haven't thrown one in a long time. Do you guys recommend it in a different plastic? How are the newest runs compared to the older runs, regarding stability?

 

[ODRB]

San Marino Roc

I love me some SM Rocs. Even have some with Pandas on them. They sure are straighter out of the box, but I think they require MORE of a ceiling, not less. I find ranchos to be faster. Not your experience?

 

[HiFi]

Maybe you guys are confusing the San Marinos with Ontario Rocs? Ontario was the wannabe Comet clone supposedly.

Otherwise I say Pure. I get just as much distance from a Pure as I do a Comet and it allows for a lower ceiling.

 

[cooter]

Roc3 all day. Keep it in the family. Feels the same as your Rocs but can take all the power you can give it. They definitely will go farther that a regular Roc. I don't know what kind of plastic you prefer but my personal favorite is the Star Roc3s. I bag a champ for the stable shots but my Stars get the most work done. I have a 173g Star that's been laser straight since the day I bought it. I usually don't throw lighter mids but this one opened my eyes and now I buy lighter backups every time I find em. I think a few Rocs along with a few Roc3s is a good mix.

 

[asc349]

The Axis is a beadless roc. If you prefer champ plastic go proton or eclipse. It will feel and fly like a beat roc. I don't think it needs any heavy power to get that flight as someone else mentioned. It will reward good form, but will punish bad form

 

[Lurp Nuts]

I guess I just haven't considered it for this role. I have a few, I'm guess I'm gonna have to go out & throw them again. I only have 2x & 3x Champion Roc3s. I haven't thrown one in a long time. Do you guys recommend it in a different plastic? How are the newest runs compared to the older runs, regarding stability?

All regular champs are pretty much the same. Get a little wear in, and it'll fly straight and long.

 

[brandocommando9]

Roc3 or flat top kc are perfect low line fast rocs. That way you can keep the same hand feel also. I love my ching rocs for this shot, but any flat top or roc3 will work.

 

[BrotherDave]

Spit balling:

Kaxe Z: That's the more neutral of the Kaxes.
Squall: Very hybrid-ish, might be more stable-understable than you're looking for.
Warship: Really look into this one. It's kind of Roc-shaped and sneaky long.
Cyclone: Barely a driver, beaded like Rocs but ESP clones are OOP now (tragedy)
Gazelle/Cheetah: Same as 'Clone, premium options will be a pain to run down.
Seer: Probably more US than you want, also a very slow driver.
A soft Vibram Ibex/stable FW Driver: Yeah, really soft discs are weird to throw but if you hit a tree they die immediately.
Sabre: Shaped like a slow driver, flies like a midrange. Darkhorse candidate.
Stalker: It's basically a faster Buzzz with a little bead on it, so it's useful for tunnels.

 

[@iDiscGolf]

@brotherdave

I'd say your pretty right on with the warship.

Also, I think the mako3 compliments the roc3 really really well.

 

[MikeM]

I agree with the Buzzz buzz. But, it is all relative to you. I used to have to rip Buzzzes to get them to fly. Now, with better form, I actually must power them down and so I use them for tight wooded shots. Thrown hard, I get a nice S. Thrown too light or on a hyzer, I get that left finish. TI Buzzz or Z is what I reach for.

 

[davmer2303]

pro line squall in ,id to upper 170's....Ka-Ching!

 

[Horsman]

Really?!?! What plastic do you recommend? I have minimal experience with San Marinos. I feel in love with Ranchos & have pretty much just stuck with them. I never would have guessed that there was that much of a difference between the older Roc variations (Rancho, San Marino, Ontario) besides the change in stability.


I guess I just haven't considered it for this role. I have a few, I'm guess I'm gonna have to go out & throw them again. I only have 2x & 3x Champion Roc3s. I haven't thrown one in a long time. Do you guys recommend it in a different plastic? How are the newest runs compared to the older runs, regarding stability?

The only premium plastic San Marinos that I have thrown have been the West Side USDGC ones. I had a champ one for a while that was just perfectly straight out of the box and sounds like it was exactly what you are describing. I have also had an echo star one of those that was just a touch more os but for me I started making a switch to san marinos now when I put in new rocs. You can get cheap Echo Star San Marinos from DGU so that might be something to look into maybe.

 

[mattc]

Buzzz or Meteor if we are talking z plastic

 

[Stardoggy]

Star Leopard. It's only a speed 6, and you can rip it on low lines in every direction.

 

[sky_handy]

Relay from MVP may work as well. It's a speed 6 fairway that's fairly easy to throw. Thrown hard it will give a nice s-turn or a full turnover. Powered down it will give you a straight flight while still giving you some distance

 

[simpletwist]

If you want an Innova recommendation, Atlas is a very straight flyer.

 

[geo_08]

I am amazed I haven't seen any more GM recommendations. Forgot about the sabre, downside is that it needs more ceiling to get a good flight out of than say a gazelle or cheetah.