Knice-Z: Wait till your daughter gets to college.
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Knice-Z: Wait till your daughter gets to college.
Image is all in the way you were raised and taught to think about those that are different from you......
You're missing my point, or perhaps I've stated it poorly.
It doesn't matter what I personally think of loud profanities or drunkenness or illegal drugs in a public park. I can be in favor of all of them. But if they lead to courses getting pulled (rare), or having a poor relationship with the parks department or town council, that matters. If I want disc golf to grow through more families and children playing, that matters. It won't help to say, Well, the neighbors and other park users and police and parks department should view those behaviors more charitably, too.
Well you can be as discreet as you want...doesn't mean you won't have some D-Bag trying to ruin it for the rest of us.
Or...and just hear me out on this, because apparently it's never been said to you before...
DON'T BREAK THE LAW
Or...and just hear me out on this, because apparently it's never been said to you before...
DON'T BREAK THE LAW
You guys are kind of drifting off the issue. The girl (according to what knowledge we have) didn't witness any questionable behavior on the course, she sat in a car in the parking lot and witnessed it there.
You know, parking lots, where everyone acts like a saint and nothing bad ever happens. :|
... I think the issue is much larger than disc golf and the answers are very complicated. Personal responsibility is hard to teach to those who have never had any. Same goes for common decency, sense and courtesy.
I'm a libertarian and would agree, IF I had a guarantee that neighbors or other park users wouldn't complain to the parks department and eventually affect this course or future course projects, and IF there were kid-friendly and family-friendly courses in the area where the growth of disc golf can be promoted absent the poor behavior.
In a practical world, it's not true that poor and illegal behavior in a public park doesn't hurt anyone else. And I'm not talking about hurting sensibilities. I'm talking about real losses to the disc golf community.
Or...and just hear me out on this, because apparently it's never been said to you before...
DON'T BREAK THE LAW
"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson
DONT BE SUCH A MUGGLE BRO
"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson
DONT BE SUCH A MUGGLE BRO