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Correct, I just wish making a new mold didn’t sometimes ruin the disc. When the San Marino stingray mold broke multiple discs changed for the worse. Good ol sanny sentinels, stingrays and qms were money if they could reproduce those I would buy huge stacks of each!

Luster sidewinders are molding up awesome. Identical shape to my stack of 05 Christmas star sidewinders. Perfect sidewinder flight too.

Ya my life is pretty boring haha!;)

I feel bad for anyone who thinks rocs are boring!

Gateway base plastics are pretty inconsistent Dave loves to tinker for sure. But you can find one you like and send it to gateway and they will help you find the best replacements. Not to mention when you buy a stack you can get awesome deals on gateway putters straight from the source.

Not sure how my non X out made it past QC then, I got a blue eternal Halloween wolf stamp alpha and the top of the flight plate has odd looking scuffs not sure if they were from molding or actually being scuffed. Not once even from brick and mortars have I got a disc that looked that bad.

You guys are crazy red star plastic was the best star for years. Way more champy-star than any other color. They might be tough to find but the plastic is amazing.

mvp is not consistent enough to have no plh variance in a plastic type? lol. But jokes aside, I would assume most people that know of plh understand that ALL plastic types will have plh variances.

I read exactly what you wrote. You said it has everything to do with plh and nothing to do with plastic type. but the two go hand in hand more often than not.

Different plastics cool different causing plh variations. So it does have plenty to do with different plastics.

It wasn’t your luck haha, I had four rivers none even close to each other in stability. They ranged from hyzer flip to roller (more flippy than a thrashed dx San Marino stingray), to almost teebird overstable. I threw two In the river fittingly lol and gave the other two away. Picked up some ce...

That sidewinder is pretty beat it really should be an excellent disc for ya, please give us your findings after ya toss it!;)

He has one on the way I really hope it works well for him!

Ya it is, but before the mcpro aviar was released there was a test run of mcpro plastic big bead p&a. I’m pretty sure anyway, lol!

Pretty sure your right, they only sold them on the factory store right?

Sometimes hand written and sometimes ink stamps. I will have to rifle through some bins to find it.

A friend of mine has been putting with omegas for probably 25 years if not longer and has a huge collection of them, has runs of omegas in the old big bead mold marked omega driver. Probably another reason I’ve always associated the old big bead mold with the aviar driver moniker.

I have an old big bead aviar that is marked aviar driver on the bottom. So I’ve always viewed the old big bead as the aviar driver.

I’ve only seen the old big bead mold in car disc for the past few years.

Sorry I was speaking about the old aviar drivers which were the original big bead mold. I do believe you are right about the more recent runs they are x molds.