I have makoiii ,sharkiii and wasp. The roc III would prob give the wasp the boot. The one time I gave a roc a huck was when I guy had dropped one out of his bag and was throwing it to him. I was brand new at the time, and that thing went around 250 on a nice line. It was a tourney stamp from local group and didn't find out what it was till I I found one leftover on the shelf at local dg shop. All they had left was 180 g. The one I had thrown was around 170 and nicely broken in. So , needless to say, the 180 never worked and sitting in loaner duffle bag to this day. I did get a bottom stamp roc for Christmas and will revisit rocs in the near future. I think the right set of cycled rocks could be the the golden ticket for midranges.