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How about some more difficult examples.
1) A bridge over a dry inbounds gully. There's a bush under the bridge. Disc is stuck in the bush, not on either playing surface. Players choice?
2) what if it's a very low bridge like 1' clearance? What about 6"?
3) What if it's 10' in the middle but gradually slopes up until it meets the bridge?
4) What about steps? First step has 1" gap underneathe it? Next one is 6" higher?
A lot of these are such that you could take a legal stance by laying down and sticking your arm in there. But is that reasonable? If the bridge is low enough that you can't stand under it, should the lower area not be considered a playing surface?
If you have two playing surfaces close enough that your supporting point on one surface could still be within 30cm of the rear of the marker, is that legal?
Wouldn't it be easier if the rule was that you could take your pick of playing surfaces that were stacked?
Nope. You play from the playing surface that the bush is on.1) A bridge over a dry inbounds gully. There's a bush under the bridge. Disc is stuck in the bush, not on either playing surface. Players choice?
If your TD has deemed it a playing surface, then by very definition (800.02 - Playing Surface) it has the ability to support a player in such a way that he can take a legal stance. Don't confuse "legal stance" with the "ability to stand" -- you may have to kneel, stretch a leg out, lie on the ground and place a hand behind your mark, etc., but if you're inbounds, on the ground, you still play from that same playing surface.2) what if it's a very low bridge like 1' clearance? What about 6"?
3) What if it's 10' in the middle but gradually slopes up until it meets the bridge?
Ditto.4) What about steps? First step has 1" gap underneathe it? Next one is 6" higher?
That's on the TD. If you know the course, then perhaps that should be discussed with him BEFORE the tourney starts.A lot of these are such that you could take a legal stance by laying down and sticking your arm in there. But is that reasonable? If the bridge is low enough that you can't stand under it, should the lower area not be considered a playing surface?
Not sure exactly what you mean here, but as long as you're playing from the playing surface where your inbounds disc is (i.e., you're taking a legal stance on that surface), you can certainly be legal to have an additional supporting point on the other playing surface.If you have two playing surfaces close enough that your supporting point on one surface could still be within 30cm of the rear of the marker, is that legal?
Wouldn't it be easier if the rule was that you could take your pick of playing surfaces that were stacked?
If your TD has deemed it a playing surface, then by very definition (800.02 - Playing Surface) it has the ability to support a player in such a way that he can take a legal stance. Don't confuse "legal stance" with the "ability to stand" -- you may have to kneel, stretch a leg out, lie on the ground and place a hand behind your mark, etc., but if you're inbounds, on the ground, you still play from that same playing surface.
PDGA Disc Golf Rules and Standards said:800.02
Playing Surface
A surface, generally the ground, which is capable of supporting the player and from which a stance can reasonably be taken. A playing surface may exist above or below another playing surface. In cases where it is unclear whether a surface is a playing surface, the decision shall be made by the Director or an official.
Not sure exactly what you mean here, but as long as you're playing from the playing surface where your inbounds disc is (i.e., you're taking a legal stance on that surface), you can certainly be legal to have an additional supporting point on the other playing surface.
I agree with your answer in general, but the definition of playing surface is not that you can take a legal stance, but that you can reasonably take a stance. What is or isn't reasonable is open for interpretation.
Provided that any additional supporting point(s) is (are) both in-bounds and no closer to the target than the rear edge of the marker disc.