I think this is what I was seeing last night. Guy I was playing with did pretty good half the time with it...the rest of the time, it dropped either way about 20-30 feet from its final resting place. Its definitely a strange one. I think the cause can be discovered...but its gonna take a while.
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[Discraft] 2011 Ace Race Putter
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I think this is what I was seeing last night. Guy I was playing with did pretty good half the time with it...the rest of the time, it dropped either way about 20-30 feet from its final resting place. Its definitely a strange one. I think the cause can be discovered...but its gonna take a while.
Norcal
Par Member
I heard several highly rated players complain about consistency with this disc, namely Patrick Brown and Greg Barsby. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it's not just a form issue. This disc is squirrely.
Our ace race setup only had a couple holes where I had to throw anything other than a hyzer with it, RHBH. So I got to throw it about 30 times on the same hyzer line at distances between 80'-180' or so. I never once flipped it. I just didn't give it much juice and it reliably came in from right to left for me. I had one ace and three metal hits.
Since I registered late and had to borrow one, I still haven't gotten mine mailed to me to field test yet.
Since I registered late and had to borrow one, I still haven't gotten mine mailed to me to field test yet.
I think the inconsistency comes from people not checking the flight plate for gremlins (and removing them) before they throw it. Those bastards wreak havoc on flight paths, planes and discs alike.
steve a
* Ace Member *
Well, if a couple pros say the disc is inconsistent it must be the disc. I wonder if those same pros throw max weight only.
JoshEpoo
* Ace Member *
Every disc is consistent if you have perfect technique. This disc obviously magnifies form flaws, which means it's touchy. It doesn't make it a bad disc, but it isn't everyone's cup of tea.
I am liking this disc more every time I throw it. Last Saturday I drove with it on 14 holes at our mini. I only got beat by two of the pros as I shot my personal best at the course with this disc. I wish it had a name...
Considering both of those guys threw it at my Ace Race (Barsby stayed at my house...) and I never heard any of that...
The disc isn't squirrely. Is it understable? Yes. Is it speed sensitive? Yes it's a putter.
gcr_russell
* Ace Member *
Wow, I sure hope its approved already. Ive got a tournament next weekend and I took it out of my bag because I didnt want to be used to using the disc so much and then not be able to throw it next weekend.
sugarnot
Eagle Member
that has been my comment to a lot of people in my area who keep raving about it and using it a ton. It isnt gonna do them any good if you cant legally throw it. Wait and see what happens and throw it here and there to get a better feel for it but dont make it your go to because you could turn out to be sorely disappointed.
There's no question that it will be approved, it's clearly within limits to be a legal mold and it sounds lime it's already been submitted. Throw it all you want, it's a safe bet it'll be legal very soon.
gcr_russell
* Ace Member *
Problem is, the sanctioned event Im playing is in 7 days. If it is not yet approved before then it is not in my best interest to keep it in my bag for the next week.
Yea, the only people that probably shouldn't have been using it this whole time are the people playing in tournaments. I was lucky enough that the only tournament I have played in since Summer was the week after the Ace Race I played in, so I wasn't used to throwing it anyway. Not being able to use it in that tournament didn't affect me at all. I asked about using it in our minis each Saturday and they didn't care, so once I knew that, I put it in my bag and have been using it ever since.
This disc has become my favorite disc to throw. I love to pull this disc out on holes that most people are reaching for a driver to throw off the tee. It isn't even understable, it is the most neutral disc that I have thrown (in ESP, the Pro-d is another story).
This disc has become my favorite disc to throw. I love to pull this disc out on holes that most people are reaching for a driver to throw off the tee. It isn't even understable, it is the most neutral disc that I have thrown (in ESP, the Pro-d is another story).
Only if they are PDGA tournaments or (in non-PDGA tournaments) if the TD specifically said only PDGA-approved discs.
The reason why people think it's "squirrely" is probably due to the fact that it doesn't like to fade. It's difficult to get used to, but even clean form on a smooth hyzer or straight shot is unpredictable for normal people. It just doesn't fade, it keeps going on a very slow smooth fade. If it's thrown slightly nose up on a hyzer, you might expect it to fade and drop at a certain time and time that for an ace run, just to see it fly past the basket on the initial flight path.
That's if you have smooth form, if you have bad form, well... you're unpredictable, not the disc. The disc easily makes 340+ on a controlled line, without turn and burn. Those that can't throw it 200' without flipping it over have form problems.
That's if you have smooth form, if you have bad form, well... you're unpredictable, not the disc. The disc easily makes 340+ on a controlled line, without turn and burn. Those that can't throw it 200' without flipping it over have form problems.
Well put...no exaggeration, everybody who has told me they hate the disc at, and since, my Ace Race fits that bad form category.
ElectricBoogaloo
Par Member
Thinking of playing in a tourney this weekend. Can't do without my go-to upshot disc. Any word on whether this thing is named or approved?
jobwilson
Eagle Member
No and no... at least not officially. It's in the process right now and it has been named, but that won't be released until it is official.
