hawgdriver
Eagle Member
Do you ever do fieldwork and have a kind of rumination about the how and why of throwing discs? I almost called it an epiphany, but an epiphany gives the impression that it's an "ah-ha!" moment, but this is more like..."hmmm. I wonder if ______" -- just thinking about it differently, with curiosity. You might be wrong, but it's interesting enough to want to explore the idea some more.
I had that kind of thought the other day about BH technique. I've been experimenting a bit with planting my right foot forward based on a tip from Simon in his Eagle/Simon clinic vid on y/t. His tip is to alter your footwork so that instead of planting in direct line with your momentum, or toward the basket/target, you plant at something like 45° to the left of that (i.e., you will be closing your hips to the basket even more).
Ok so here's the esoteric part. First gotta give some quick background on a math thingy called the "cross product". Cross product is a 3D operation, it tells you the direction a field acts upon a moving particle. Think about an electron speeding down a particle accelerator, with magnets keeping that electron going in a circle. Let's say you got an electron going straight ahead, a magnetic field coming in from the right side, and Maxwell's equations say that the resultant force vector with be in the direction of the cross product--straight up to the sky, so the electron would bend upwards. Check out wiki for pictures--the 'right-hand rule' (point your fingers in direction of movement, then curl your fingers into your palm as if the field was pushing them like wind--your right thumb points the direction of the force of that interaction).
Wow, this is way more bizarre than I expected, I guess esoteric is right. Ok, so with that background, what I was thinking about was "I wonder if a great throw is really just when the cross product of the downward force of weight transfer and the sideways force of bracing are maximized?"
It kind of makes sense, because the result is a force that pushes you backwards--giving the necessary resistance to the forward force vector being channeled into the disc.
Idk, it's probably total bs, but something about the 'feel' of that idea makes sense to me.
Then I get to thinking about...well, if my center of gravity can be described as a moving point particle, and there are these muscular/momentum/gravity things happening at various locations displaced from that center of gravity in x, y, and z coordinates...maybe there is something to it? All these various torques (torque is a cross product of axis of rotation and a force), and you are trying to get them all to add up to a crush throw.
Anyways, sorry. You'll never get those two to three minutes of your life back. But if you think there's something to this esoteric thought, or it makes you think of another, I'd love to hear it. Or hear a similar esoteric thought of your own.
I had that kind of thought the other day about BH technique. I've been experimenting a bit with planting my right foot forward based on a tip from Simon in his Eagle/Simon clinic vid on y/t. His tip is to alter your footwork so that instead of planting in direct line with your momentum, or toward the basket/target, you plant at something like 45° to the left of that (i.e., you will be closing your hips to the basket even more).
Ok so here's the esoteric part. First gotta give some quick background on a math thingy called the "cross product". Cross product is a 3D operation, it tells you the direction a field acts upon a moving particle. Think about an electron speeding down a particle accelerator, with magnets keeping that electron going in a circle. Let's say you got an electron going straight ahead, a magnetic field coming in from the right side, and Maxwell's equations say that the resultant force vector with be in the direction of the cross product--straight up to the sky, so the electron would bend upwards. Check out wiki for pictures--the 'right-hand rule' (point your fingers in direction of movement, then curl your fingers into your palm as if the field was pushing them like wind--your right thumb points the direction of the force of that interaction).
Wow, this is way more bizarre than I expected, I guess esoteric is right. Ok, so with that background, what I was thinking about was "I wonder if a great throw is really just when the cross product of the downward force of weight transfer and the sideways force of bracing are maximized?"
It kind of makes sense, because the result is a force that pushes you backwards--giving the necessary resistance to the forward force vector being channeled into the disc.
Idk, it's probably total bs, but something about the 'feel' of that idea makes sense to me.
Then I get to thinking about...well, if my center of gravity can be described as a moving point particle, and there are these muscular/momentum/gravity things happening at various locations displaced from that center of gravity in x, y, and z coordinates...maybe there is something to it? All these various torques (torque is a cross product of axis of rotation and a force), and you are trying to get them all to add up to a crush throw.
Anyways, sorry. You'll never get those two to three minutes of your life back. But if you think there's something to this esoteric thought, or it makes you think of another, I'd love to hear it. Or hear a similar esoteric thought of your own.
