Has Adidas Terrex Peaked?

[Moose33]

Possibly hot take. Super thin and breathable shoes (I currently wear Xero shoes on the course) with a waterproofing spray and extra socks for worst case scenario is way better than a waterproof shoe. It's not a matter of if your feet get wet but when, even with gortex, and waterproof shoes take ages to dry out.

I played a tournament last month, first hole of round two threw into some foot deep casual water and my casual relief would have taken me OB so my options were walk in a play my shot or go 400ft back to the tee and throw 3. Rolled my pants up and played it from the water. 2 hole later I finally had a minute to change my socks and the shoes were already completely dry. I've had waterproof shoes in the past that have taken over an entire day siting outside before they dried out.

I agree about preferring non waterproof. If water gets into a waterproof shoe it's forever getting dry, these are 24 hours tops and wash in the machine pretty well.

 

[tbird888]

do any barefoots/minimalist really last for dg standards

also back to the op i didnt like terrex for dg unless it was dirt pads on the cement they just felt like clunky cleats

If they have a one-piece sole, I imagine minimalist shoes would hold up quite well. I wore a pair of New Balance Minimus and absolutely adored them until the two pieces of the soles started separating. Despite them feeling a little flimsy, the rest of them held up to the abuse.

 

[wolfhaley]

I got 3 pairs of Terrex's. I'm still rocking my first pair but they are not in great shape anymore. Probably 4 years old now. They're separating from the soles but are very comfortable. Only wear these in dry conditions though. The 2 backup pairs I bought prematurely are brand new, so I should be set for years on these.

For early spring/late fall or anything above freezing temps I got a pair of Keen Targhee's. These have worked great for me. They're my "waterproof" shoe. Very comfortable and have held up well.

For winter I bought a cheapo brand, Hi Tek I think they're called. Waterproof, cheap and a size larger to comfortably wear wool socks. No complaints.

 

[aphilso1]

Possibly hot take. Super thin and breathable shoes (I currently wear Xero shoes on the course) with a waterproofing spray and extra socks for worst case scenario is way better than a waterproof shoe. It's not a matter of if your feet get wet but when, even with gortex, and waterproof shoes take ages to dry out.

I played a tournament last month, first hole of round two threw into some foot deep casual water and my casual relief would have taken me OB so my options were walk in a play my shot or go 400ft back to the tee and throw 3. Rolled my pants up and played it from the water. 2 hole later I finally had a minute to change my socks and the shoes were already completely dry. I've had waterproof shoes in the past that have taken over an entire day siting outside before they dried out.

Waterproof and non-waterproof shoes each have their own benefits. I prefer to have a pair of both on hand, but if I had to pick one then I would go with non-waterproof. Goretex works best for damp, but not soaking wet, rounds.

When to wear waterproof shoes:
-Early morning rounds in humid climates
-On well draining courses in light-to-moderate rain
-In winter if less than 3" snow (both for the added warmth and for a bit of water resistance)

Probably even a bigger difference than shoe choice is sock choice. Cotton is horrible and retains so much water. I prefer a lightweight wool/synthetic blend (Cloudline, Darn Tough, etc) which both regulate temperature and wick moisture away.

 

[BeRReGoN]

I'm using Nike Pegasus Trailrunner shoes and they are lightweight and comfortable after a little breaking in period but like some said already, I always feel that on concrete/hard teepads I'm not as balance with shoes with obvious cleats. It was the same with my previous trailrunner shoes, I forgot the brand and model.

I also have a Merrel minimalist shoes, vapor trail I think, it feels good and I often practice putting indoor barefoot so it's very close to the same feeling. Con is my lower legs and feet get tired and sore quickly.

Another one I have is an Adidas Tennis shoes, wide and flat, easy to feel balance but on wet grass it can be slippery. They are not the most comfortable shoes either, I need to put some preventive tape on my ankles.

I've seen a disc golf video recently about shoes and they talk about Vans Ultrarange model, that might be my next try, but for now I'm ok with the Nike ones, and trying again the other two once in a while.

 

[CrowLegs]

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I've seen a disc golf video recently about shoes and they talk about Vans Ultrarange model, that might be my next try, but for now I'm ok with the Nike ones, and trying again the other two once in a while.

I'd really like to hear from anyone who's used the Vans Ultrarange. Looks really interesting, especially the Mid version that might give some good ankle support with light weight....

 

[DatRedDude]

True, but my New Balance, Salomons and Nikes didn't fare any better either.

I will say that my Salomon winter boots have held up extremely well, but for how thick the tread is (and how much they cost) they better.

Tip on the Terrex to save money - get a pair without Gortex for summer wear/dry days . They cost anywhere from 30 to 50% less, and breathe better and are a bit lighter and more flexible on your feet.

bought a pair of AX3's at costco for 30$ wear them for dry rounds, well worth the money

 

[ru4por]

I'd really like to hear from anyone who's used the Vans Ultrarange. Looks really interesting, especially the Mid version that might give some good ankle support with light weight....

I have no idea how anyone could play disc golf at most of the SE Michigan courses I play, in Vans. A few of them, in the perfect season, on the perfect day, playing the perfect fairway round? Roots, dirt, mud, rocks, underbrush, rats, snakes, bobcat, mountain lions.......sorry got carried away. But, I want an aggressive tread, foot and ankle support and something to keep my feet dry.

Had a guy on my card last weekend, wearing a pair of Vans. We were at a course with newly upgraded cement pads. Even with brooms out, many had sand all over them from installation. This guys was sliding around like he was doing some kind of Ethiopian sand dance.

 

[BeRReGoN]

There's different kind of Vans shoes, from the pictures I've seen the Ultrarange are not the very flat sole type. Drew Gibson use them since a while.

 

[ru4por]

There's different kind of Vans shoes, from the pictures I've seen the Ultrarange are not the very flat sole type. Drew Gibson use them since a while.

I indeed was thinking of the flat, smooth, skater sneaks. Just looked up the ultrarange, it does have some tread.....not much, but far from smooth. Still look like an old man, slip and fall nightmare.

 

[sidewinder22]

There's different kind of Vans shoes, from the pictures I've seen the Ultrarange are not the very flat sole type. Drew Gibson use them since a while.

Wonder if related to his injury.

 

[flatflip]

Wonder if related to his injury.

Reported to be an issue with the turf pads at Portland Open. Whether the Vans made him more susceptible to ankle injury, can only speculate.

 

[jakebake91]

I have been wearing a pair of the Merrell Nova non waterproof trail runners everyday for a few months now. Really loving them. Haven't played as much dg as I'd like to have, but after over a dozen rounds and wearing them walking, hiking, playing with kiddos, and everything else daily, they are holding up great. Also easily the best fitting shoe for my foot I've ever worn.

I also really considered the Altra Lone Peaks. I have a pair of Altras that I run in. Super comfy and I like the zero drop fit. I do know that my lightweight Altra road runners are NOT for disc golf. Wore them one round and my right shoe was nearly shredded.

 

[BeRReGoN]

Wonder if related to his injury.

Could be but It seems he didn't has much trouble with them before. Like McBeth ankle injury it's hard to really know and it's probably more than one reason.

One thing I noticed is with trail running shoes with good padding, my feet and shins feel fine but my hips and knees get sore. With my minimalist shoes it's the opposite and even when I slip It's easier to maintain balance but it's all anecdotes, nothing scientific.

I think overall form is more important, a bad form can hurt you and even a powerful form might be bad in the long run like Tiger Wood in golf but who knows maybe he just had a predisposition, I'm no specialist.

 

[Rastnav]

The reports were that the turf tees at Portland were too grippy, though. So, whatever the contribution of the Vans to Gibson's injury, I wouldn't think that too little grip was the issue. Although, like racing slicks, I would think a smoother sole shoe could be too grippy at times, and not enough at others.

Just an idle thought, though.

 

[ReinZ_96]

Zero drop shoes have solid positives and negatives. I have a pair of Xero zero drop trail shoes and they fit and feel great. I feel like my putting is better while wearing them because I feel more stable. The problem is that on a hilly course, the zero drop burns out your calves. Not a huge deal for a casual round, and maybe even a positive when you consider you are getting extra workout. But if you play competitively, I wouldn't want extra fatigue on a two round day.

In my experience, after learning how to walk properly in them it's not that much different than regular shoes. Also, I've been playing in zero drop barefoot shoes for long enough that trying to throw in a normal shoe kills my timing and consistency...not that it's that great to begin with, but you know

 

[ReinZ_96]

do any barefoots/minimalist really last for dg standards

also back to the op i didnt like terrex for dg unless it was dirt pads on the cement they just felt like clunky cleats

My Xeros definitely started to show signs of wear a lot faster than a normal shoe, but after almost two years they are still kicking strong. The tread and the upper of the shoe is completely fine, but I've had to do a couple applications of shoe goo since the upper was separating from the tread at the toe. They look like hell currently, but they work as good as they ever have. By two years the 3 pairs of Merrels and the one pair of Keens I had previously the tread was almost completely worn smooth, including one of the Merrels that the tread started separating from the toe literally like 2 months after I got them. I think, on average, the barefoot shoes won't last as long, but I don't think it's enough to really be an issue.

I played a tournament round with a guy earlier this year who has been wearing Vivo Barefoots for years and he said they last pretty similarly to a standard shoe.

 

[elmexdela]

My Xeros definitely started to show signs of wear a lot faster than a normal shoe, but after almost two years they are still kicking strong. The tread and the upper of the shoe is completely fine, but I've had to do a couple applications of shoe goo since the upper was separating from the tread at the toe. They look like hell currently, but they work as good as they ever have. By two years the 3 pairs of Merrels and the one pair of Keens I had previously the tread was almost completely worn smooth, including one of the Merrels that the tread started separating from the toe literally like 2 months after I got them. I think, on average, the barefoot shoes won't last as long, but I don't think it's enough to really be an issue.

I played a tournament round with a guy earlier this year who has been wearing Vivo Barefoots for years and he said they last pretty similarly to a standard shoe.

interesting

i was getting a split from the sole and the fabric on the sides cuz of my nasty pivot and have been using shoe goo on it (thanks skateboarding) to prolong it but i wasnt sure if that was "normal"

thank you for the explanation tho

i mean sure i could clean up my form but buying new shoes is easier

 

[dehaas]

Could be but It seems he didn't has much trouble with them before. Like McBeth ankle injury it's hard to really know and it's probably more than one reason.

One thing I noticed is with trail running shoes with good padding, my feet and shins feel fine but my hips and knees get sore. With my minimalist shoes it's the opposite and even when I slip It's easier to maintain balance but it's all anecdotes, nothing scientific.

I think overall form is more important, a bad form can hurt you and even a powerful form might be bad in the long run like Tiger Wood in golf but who knows maybe he just had a predisposition, I'm no specialist.

Yeah that's why it's suggested to slowly transition into zero drop shoes. Higher drop shoes direct impact to your joints, zero drop to your muscles…primarily calves.

Most minimal shoes are zero drop, but not all zero drop shoes are minimalist. All of Altra's models are zero drop but they have a couple with fat stacks of cushioning underneath. Zero drop is just a foot position thing.

 

[BillFleming]

Reported to be an issue with the turf pads at Portland Open. Whether the Vans made him more susceptible to ankle injury, can only speculate.

I can't be positive about this, but I recall watching the Jomez Portland Open practice round and on one tee pad Big Jerm said someone's going to twist their ankle on this.

I believe the tee pad was not level and the right side was either higher or lower (can't remember) than the rest of the tee pad.

Again....that's what I recall. If I have a chance tonight, I'll re-watch it and update this.