saw this posted on reddit by u/iSeeth
Guy tees off and clips a tree sending his disc about 90 degrees to the right into some trees and shrubs. The trees and shrubs are overgrown with honeysuckle vines creating a canopy about 15 feet above the ground. There is no two-meter rule.
We go to look for the disc. "What color?" Dark blue. "How high did it hit?" About twenty feet off that tree (pointing). "Did anyone see it come down?" No.
It is thick up in the canopy. Nobody has started a clock for a lost disc search.
After a few minutes, the card following comes down to help. After about 30 seconds one of them spots the disc, points it out, and heads back up to the tee pad.
Another member on the first card has an extendable pole with a hook. He uses it to sort of hang straight down to show where to mark the disc on the ground. He says, "Go ahead and throw and then I'll pull it down." The guy pitches out and the guy with the pole pulls down his disc. Except, it isn't his disc.
What are the options? What would you do?
Everybody agrees that he is returning to the tee but there is an argument of how many penalty strokes argument:
A) He returns to the tee playing 3 because the penalties do not stack because the lost disc superseeds the misplay as it was thrown first and not realized til after the misplay. Rule 801.02 H A throw or an action that is subject to penalty under more than one rule is played under the rule that results in the most penalty throws; or, among rules that call for an equal number of penalty throws, the rule that was first violated.
B) Him throwing from the wrong lie (because the disc in tree wasnt his) is a misplay and a totaly differnt action from losing the disc as such he gets the stroke for the lost disc + one penalty stroke for losing it + one penalty stroke for the misplay and is on the tee throwing 4
I origionally posted he would be throwing 3 because i didnt take the misplay into account but now im not sure and am leaning tward 4. Everyone agrees he is on the tee again but is he throwing 3 or 4?
Guy tees off and clips a tree sending his disc about 90 degrees to the right into some trees and shrubs. The trees and shrubs are overgrown with honeysuckle vines creating a canopy about 15 feet above the ground. There is no two-meter rule.
We go to look for the disc. "What color?" Dark blue. "How high did it hit?" About twenty feet off that tree (pointing). "Did anyone see it come down?" No.
It is thick up in the canopy. Nobody has started a clock for a lost disc search.
After a few minutes, the card following comes down to help. After about 30 seconds one of them spots the disc, points it out, and heads back up to the tee pad.
Another member on the first card has an extendable pole with a hook. He uses it to sort of hang straight down to show where to mark the disc on the ground. He says, "Go ahead and throw and then I'll pull it down." The guy pitches out and the guy with the pole pulls down his disc. Except, it isn't his disc.
What are the options? What would you do?
Everybody agrees that he is returning to the tee but there is an argument of how many penalty strokes argument:
A) He returns to the tee playing 3 because the penalties do not stack because the lost disc superseeds the misplay as it was thrown first and not realized til after the misplay. Rule 801.02 H A throw or an action that is subject to penalty under more than one rule is played under the rule that results in the most penalty throws; or, among rules that call for an equal number of penalty throws, the rule that was first violated.
B) Him throwing from the wrong lie (because the disc in tree wasnt his) is a misplay and a totaly differnt action from losing the disc as such he gets the stroke for the lost disc + one penalty stroke for losing it + one penalty stroke for the misplay and is on the tee throwing 4
I origionally posted he would be throwing 3 because i didnt take the misplay into account but now im not sure and am leaning tward 4. Everyone agrees he is on the tee again but is he throwing 3 or 4?