I got about 40 minutes of time in the field before work this morning. I wanted to throw the Saint alongside the Teebird to see what the relation to that disc would be. I will throw it alongside others as well, but today was Tbird day.
I have three variations on the Bird that I brought along to cover the different shapes and stabilities that have come out in that mold. I know there are others, but these are the ones I have.
11x Champ Gummy Flat 154g- This is one stable little bird that has maintained most of its stability after hundreds of throws and is fast.
12x (11x Clone) Champ Gummy Flat 150g- This is my least stable Bird, but is nearly as quick as my true 11x.
12x Champ Firm Domey 171g- This Bird doubles as a soup bowl when turned upside down. It is noticeably slower than my other Birds and really stable.
Saint Opto Medium Dome 168g- Stable out to 350' with tons of glide and didn't show any signs of flippyness even on longer pulls.
I threw flat ground no wind shots at the magic 300 foot pin. The Saint was a slightly faster than all the Birds, less stable than the new 12x, and more stable than the 11x and the Clone. It took a little less effort than the Birds to get there, but it was pretty close. In previous testing a couple days ago I did unlock the difference between the two for me; the Saint catches glide out past 350 and just keeps going. I can't get my Teebirds out that far, and especially on a low gliding laser.
At the 300' mark, I didn't see the Saint being a -1 on the turn scale. I also don't feel that the disc is a full 9 speeder on any of the pulls I've made. Regardless, for me, this disc absolutely rocks and I have a really good Idea where I want it in the bag.