Power Rankings

[onemilemore]

hahaha

Far fewer issues with this update. Shockingly, I disagree with a few things, though. If Ricky was #1 last update, and there have been 2 events since, one being THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS, and Ricky won that, how on earth does he move down? Oh yea, you guys weight the most recent event at 900% in your calculations. Forgot about that. Sexton should not have been #2 in the first place, but no way he should have moved down that much. How does Cale skip Worlds and move UP? Simon missed an event and he was abolished from the list completely. Lastly, you are overlooking Masters age players still. JohnE and Barry are among the 20 best players the world, without a doubt.

Women's rankings look pretty spot on.

I love all of this! Honestly the biggest reason I do these rankings is for discussion, so I have no qualms with you bringing up your issues. My move of Ricky down had to do more with Paul lighting it up at Ledgestone (and yes, these are more what have you done for me lately). If Ricky would have placed higher than 12th he probably would have kept the top spot.

I will admit that the players who skip around to different tournaments are tough to address, and I'd be interested in a solution if you have one.

We've only kept it to MPO the whole season, hence no JohnE or Barry. Des Reading jumps back and forth but I forgive that in FPO a bit more because the field is not as deep.

 

[hellbound]

Any plans on using the Disc golf world tour and Pro tour statistics for the future? Always enjoy you guys take on rankings. Some times its more of a feeling thing as to what people should be ranked. Personally I think you have a tie at best for Mcbeth and Ricky @ first and have Eagle and Koling ranked way to up. Cam could be argued for being a little high but has been on a great year for the events that he has traveled to.

 

[@CD-]

7 years on we now have a number of additional ranking systems in addition to the PDGA ratings. Not all have updated or released 2023 versions yet but some analysis into the methodologies and call out what they are trying to achieve might be nice.

PDGA ratings (1 year lookback): https://www.pdga.com/players/stats?page=0&order=player_Rating&sort=desc
PDGA winnings (2023): https://www.pdga.com/players/stats?order=Prize&sort=desc
PDGA US Tour rankings (2022): https://www.pdga.com/united-states-tour-ranking
UDisc: https://udisclive.com/world-rankings
DGPT General points (2023 season - incl. 2022 wrap-around events): https://udisclive.com/standings?d=MPO
StatMando Official (24 month lookback): https://statmando.com/rankings/official/mpo
StatMando Power (15 week lookback): https://statmando.com/rankings/official-power/mpo
Ultiworld (2 year lookback) & Composite: https://discgolf.ultiworld.com/2023...omposite-world-rankings-april-18-2023-update/

StatMando's multi view (https://statmando.com/rankings/multi/mpo) hasn't been updated to show all of these and others in a single view. Ultiworld's Composite aggregates UDisc, PDGA, StatMando, and Ultiworld together.

Interesting to see Wysocki reclaim #1 in UDisc Power rankings without playing the Major. DGN commentators seemed to be using the UDisc ranking as their definitive one but I'm not sure they can really say that Wysocki should reclaim top spot without even playing. A few of the players not making it in due to waitlist (Aderhold, Jones, Gurthie, Marwede) or withdrawal (Wysocki) or non-entry (Sexton) moved up in the UDisc rankings due to players going down in dominance index. I wonder how that system will react once the tour splits for the European tournaments and later in the season when top pros are sitting out the silver events when they no longer need DGPT points.

I wouldn't mind seeing a 'weeks in a row at #1' or '2023 total weeks at #1' be implemented. Doesn't seem there is a persistent historical record for these and they just get updated mostly.

 

[thatdirtykid]

Do you guys think that the 20 best disc golfers all make their primary living playing disc? Maybe a dumb question.

While we are bumping this thread I caught this. We knew the sport would grow, but we now know most of the top 20 have 6 figure incomes. With 3 known 7 figure guaranteed.
Then guys like Conrad became millionaires aside that (Based on assuming he makes a few bucks or more per disc and the sales figures of near 700k combined Envys/Nomads/Terras they made after the "holy shot")

 

[inboxcar]

While we are bumping this thread I caught this. We knew the sport would grow, but we now know most of the top 20 have 6 figure incomes. With 3 known 7 figure guaranteed.
Then guys like Conrad became millionaires aside that (Based on assuming he makes a few bucks or more per disc and the sales figures of near 700k combined Envys/Nomads/Terras they made after the "holy shot")

I went to see the final round of the DGPT Texas States a month or so ago. What really surprised me is how many of the players (even FPO ones I'd never heard of) had really nice RV's with their names/pictures on them obviously provided by their discmaker/team. Clearly alot of $$ being thrown around supporting the touring pros. I would guess there are way more than the top 20 players in MPO living off DG full time. Maybe not just tournament winnings but sponsor kickbacks, disc sales, lessons, youtube, etc.