Since we've already discussed rulings and non-rulings during this tournament here's another. Kind of long.
There was a groan when Ricky's Tee on #8 came out low, slow, and short disappearing over a tiny hill (35:06). Unknown, it was in a drainage swale. See it in flyover at 33:55. The fairways at Champions Landing and Jones Park were still saturated from the heavy rain last weekend. The hillsides were weeping water at both courses throughout the tournaments.
Ricky addressed the card, assuming he was seeking relief. I did'nt see the card scrutinize the lie or engage in discussion. Everybody kind of milled around the area and someone in the crowd speculated they were waiting on an official ruling. I didn't see anything indicating an official looked at the lie. Rick took no relief and planted for a stand still forehand. It was obvious his foot was in water and the ground wouldn't support him. Sure enough his foot sunk & slipped pushing the disc about 4". No one said anything and the players and gallery moved on. Ricky then threw OB and he seemed troubled. The Jomez commentators discussed the lie call with Jerm saying there was no casual relief because it's not listed as casual relief.
I went back to look after they putted out and took a pic & short video. The hillside was still weeping and the tiny rivulets of water were flowing. Now, there is a continuum from clear water to hard packed mud with infinite stages of colloidal states. Where does water become muddy enough to become just mud? If there is a layer of flowing water over it I would call it water; casual water. Listing not required per the rules. I think the right call was "casual".
Pic is looking toward Tee. Ricks foot planted in area just left of center pointing down toward basket.. Print on right is from gallery I think.
There was a groan when Ricky's Tee on #8 came out low, slow, and short disappearing over a tiny hill (35:06). Unknown, it was in a drainage swale. See it in flyover at 33:55. The fairways at Champions Landing and Jones Park were still saturated from the heavy rain last weekend. The hillsides were weeping water at both courses throughout the tournaments.
Ricky addressed the card, assuming he was seeking relief. I did'nt see the card scrutinize the lie or engage in discussion. Everybody kind of milled around the area and someone in the crowd speculated they were waiting on an official ruling. I didn't see anything indicating an official looked at the lie. Rick took no relief and planted for a stand still forehand. It was obvious his foot was in water and the ground wouldn't support him. Sure enough his foot sunk & slipped pushing the disc about 4". No one said anything and the players and gallery moved on. Ricky then threw OB and he seemed troubled. The Jomez commentators discussed the lie call with Jerm saying there was no casual relief because it's not listed as casual relief.
I went back to look after they putted out and took a pic & short video. The hillside was still weeping and the tiny rivulets of water were flowing. Now, there is a continuum from clear water to hard packed mud with infinite stages of colloidal states. Where does water become muddy enough to become just mud? If there is a layer of flowing water over it I would call it water; casual water. Listing not required per the rules. I think the right call was "casual".
Pic is looking toward Tee. Ricks foot planted in area just left of center pointing down toward basket.. Print on right is from gallery I think.
