so i have been playing for 3 years now, athletic my whole life, hockey baseball, snow/skateboarding, surfing etc, Started playing DG for fun and only threw stupid nose up hyzers.
Ok youtube, watched a bunch of videos, (before there were coaches searchable in the aglo) found an old video that said, reach straight back and start the lawnmower, so i started that, I was getting about 220ft max sometimes more but 200 on the reg. after a year and half of watching others just throw 350 at the course with no effort, it made me realize that im not doing something right as i should be getting better, my accuracy was pretty decent but still i should be throwing farther..
so i made a post on reddit asking for what i should be doing. mixed bag of stuff, one guy described it as elbowing down a door, (pulling more)
Then i found Overthrow, Josh was able to translate drills i could understand (well mostly) i could see my form improving and i finally understood that "you never pull" because when you do , you tend to release late etc.. You turn your hips and it puts your in the pocket and then you release. For 5 months of field work i thought i was doing this, until people said i was still pulling, Then it finally hit me, my right arm (bicep) should stay 90ish degrees from my chest until i release (dont flame me , yes i know pros go past this, but my point is you dont ELBOW to 140 degrees) I FIGURED IT OUT, focused the hell on this, but again not much for gains,
this jouney took me from 220 to 250 avg, but my form looked very smooth, and still maybe 260 avg, im in a few discords and people said, my form looks like i should be getting 300+ easy. I have been suffering from nose angle and thats kinda another story.. Posted another for review and everyone said my timing was off and my hips were not being used.
Here is a sample of my hinge form, not really cherry picked as my "best" i sometime use the bonepane grip with long distance drives as its help "ME" with nose up issues, its actually day and night, but im not really here to talk about that yet.. (nose issues)
Thats where i found Ace It disc golfs videos, From what i have gathered Its just Seabass's drills with bit clearer explanation and more vibrant. But the way he explains and shows you right there with the progression, makes sense,
so this is what im doing, standstill, pendulum back, to about 6/7 oclock (if my target is 12) as its going back, i plant my toes and at the peak, thats when i drop my heel and shift my weight, turn and let the disc rip out.
Here is me attempting his standstill, again i know there is a lot wrong and im going to work on things, im not really looking for help yet,
now after watching my video of me trying this, some of the discs are ripping out of my hand, some are flying less nose up, and some are going about 290.. (i tend to throw 20 discs at a time and i can get a few that far but teh avg is 265) My issue is, when i start my right hip is pointed towards the target and 90% of my throw end up at 2/3 oclock, which is from my elbow going well past my body and not releasing at 10, but 12/1 oclock..
so my question is, how does one prevent the late release with this drill? He says in his video that hinging is not a great source of power,
this is a sample of his drill, and you can see his elbow , goes way past his hip, (this might be an overexaggerating for the drill) but again from my understanding, this is the biproduct of pulling and a late release..
please keep this discussion to the release point and timing, i really want to discuss this topic and not my hand grip etc..
Ok youtube, watched a bunch of videos, (before there were coaches searchable in the aglo) found an old video that said, reach straight back and start the lawnmower, so i started that, I was getting about 220ft max sometimes more but 200 on the reg. after a year and half of watching others just throw 350 at the course with no effort, it made me realize that im not doing something right as i should be getting better, my accuracy was pretty decent but still i should be throwing farther..
so i made a post on reddit asking for what i should be doing. mixed bag of stuff, one guy described it as elbowing down a door, (pulling more)
Then i found Overthrow, Josh was able to translate drills i could understand (well mostly) i could see my form improving and i finally understood that "you never pull" because when you do , you tend to release late etc.. You turn your hips and it puts your in the pocket and then you release. For 5 months of field work i thought i was doing this, until people said i was still pulling, Then it finally hit me, my right arm (bicep) should stay 90ish degrees from my chest until i release (dont flame me , yes i know pros go past this, but my point is you dont ELBOW to 140 degrees) I FIGURED IT OUT, focused the hell on this, but again not much for gains,
this jouney took me from 220 to 250 avg, but my form looked very smooth, and still maybe 260 avg, im in a few discords and people said, my form looks like i should be getting 300+ easy. I have been suffering from nose angle and thats kinda another story.. Posted another for review and everyone said my timing was off and my hips were not being used.
Here is a sample of my hinge form, not really cherry picked as my "best" i sometime use the bonepane grip with long distance drives as its help "ME" with nose up issues, its actually day and night, but im not really here to talk about that yet.. (nose issues)
Thats where i found Ace It disc golfs videos, From what i have gathered Its just Seabass's drills with bit clearer explanation and more vibrant. But the way he explains and shows you right there with the progression, makes sense,
so this is what im doing, standstill, pendulum back, to about 6/7 oclock (if my target is 12) as its going back, i plant my toes and at the peak, thats when i drop my heel and shift my weight, turn and let the disc rip out.
Here is me attempting his standstill, again i know there is a lot wrong and im going to work on things, im not really looking for help yet,
now after watching my video of me trying this, some of the discs are ripping out of my hand, some are flying less nose up, and some are going about 290.. (i tend to throw 20 discs at a time and i can get a few that far but teh avg is 265) My issue is, when i start my right hip is pointed towards the target and 90% of my throw end up at 2/3 oclock, which is from my elbow going well past my body and not releasing at 10, but 12/1 oclock..
so my question is, how does one prevent the late release with this drill? He says in his video that hinging is not a great source of power,
please keep this discussion to the release point and timing, i really want to discuss this topic and not my hand grip etc..