There is not a better course around if you are looking to improve on distance. The routes you have to throw are pretty fun and challenging and the water keeps skilled players honest. Golf carts make the long course easier to play and there is a nice gazebo right at the beginning. This is a course with so much potential to be a great championship course. As far as spending all day at a course goes, this is the one. It's $5 to play but it's good all day and it's a fun day out at Pine Valley. Grab some bagged lunches and shoot a couple rounds there with very friendly staff and nice pro shop at the front.

Don't ever bring a new player because it's way too long and too much water. Mud, mud, mud, and more mud is pretty common here. Non-locals (the 4-5 I have brought there) get irritated and confused at this course and these are folks that have been playing for years. Admission is all day but carts are not so you have to pay per round and per person and that gets pricey. The tee pads say "natural" on this page and I feel the strong need to clarify that. There are no tee pads what so ever and they are very hard to locate. I haven't been in a few months, but last I saw there are no signs and the tee pads were basically spray painted into the grass and obviously that fades with weather. If it wasn't spray paint it is two tiny little flags that get ran over and moved so it's hard to find them. Natural tee's are just fine, but you still need to be able to locate them. There is a map but a tiny print out map on the back of a score card is hardly as helpful as an actual designed tee pad (even if it's just done with wood around the dirt or big colored rocks to mark tee). My last issue is one that the owners cannot help, but is still an issue. Customer service is great and polite, but they are very clear that regular golfers are first and we are not. Meaning that we wait on them, not the other way around. I guess the con is that having multiple golf games on one course just gets crowded and they (Pine Valley) basically said "They are more important" because Pine Valley was originally just a regular golf course and didn't have disc golf.

If tee pads were actually there and the course had signs at the holes this course could easily be rated 4-4.5 but rating this course that high right now is simply irresponsible because the course has LOTS to work on. Rating it 5 is just ridiculous and untrue. Just because it's the only long course around doesn't make it perfect. It's fairly new so there is nothing wrong with not being perfect yet. The guys who designed the course and the owners of the course have worked very hard making it and I know that it will get better and better. A true non-bias rating is what this is right here. If I go back out there soon and see that tee's are easier to find and maybe we get some signs then I'd update this rating immediately to a better rating.