It's not a beginner course but, it is "the" City of Seattle go-to course IMHO. A quick drive from the center of downtown Seattle for me. It's a long tricky course (27 holes) with a respectable variety of holes. Some of the longer holes require good shot placement and strategy to keep it interesting. Most par 3's offer a little something to add to the variety.

- Dog and cart friendly
- Lots of shade, with benches at some holes.
- Plenty of parking (on weekdays anyway).
- Other players are very aware of the speed of play and will almost always invite faster groups to play through.

As with other giant courses, maintenance is an enormous chore. The grass has been high for the past couple of months (June/July 2023) but not horrible. High grass will remove most ground play even inside the circle on many holes.

Lots of the holes could use some branch trimming. Not everybody can throw 400' grenades and you can tell the course designers didn't mean for that to be necessary. To me, at least a quarter of the holes need the intended lines to be opened up again. I'd enjoy bending shots more often than going over the top. When a hole becomes so tight, the fairway in the sky is the best option, your missing the point.

- There is very little elevation change although some pins are located on mounds.
- The walk from 5 to 6 needs improved signage, without UDisk you'd be spinning in circles.
- It's an urban course so it's grossly tagged everyplace. Pretty much anything that isn't living has been scrawled upon.
- With so many blind holes the spiny waist high brush located on some fairways can be a PITA. You can spend a lot of time looking for your disc in the fairway.
- Some of the tee pads are in very shaded areas and can be comically slick. (another reason to be aggressive when trimming branches.)

A spotter is helpful on many holes for first-timers. There are many blind holes and as I said the fairways can be thick. I played 6 times and there are always people spending an enormous amount of time looking for discs. It takes a bit of a search sometimes to find good shots, but god help you if you are more than 2 or 3 feet off the fairway on some of these holes…

If you are a player that is easily distracted this course will change your life. About every 45 seconds a low-flying airliner will buzz overhead. So close you can feel it in your chest.

The course is long and challenging, and routinely frustrates me, but I keep coming back for more. While punishing, the holes are generally fair. It definitely helps to have a big arm here, but most shots have a low ceiling so there isn't much opportunity for big bomber drives. It's all about placement here--throwing too far can land you in trouble on a lot of holes.

The redesign with the new holes is definitely an improvement. In addition to having new holes, there is also a great warmup area with 3 baskets spaced far enough apart to practice approach shots, plus a 4th practice basket for putting. It also makes use of a huge parking lot, where in the original design, there was only a tiny parking lot or street parking (where break-ins were a real possibility). Also, I'm a big fan of the Mach x baskets that are used on the new holes--I just wish ALL the holes had them.

Being a large park with 27 holes, you can have a much more private round than other courses in the area, which is a big plus. The park is well used by dog walkers and such, but its rare to have anyone in the way.

Probably the biggest con for me is the blackberries. Since the course used to be a neighborhood, the spaces that once were yards have been reclaimed by blackberries. The fairways stay clean for the most part (though you still need to keep an eye out), but the rough can be absolutely brutal if things go wrong.

There isn't a whole lot of signage here, mainly due to vandals in nighttime hours. Not a huge deal though, because most baskets are marked with a "next tee" arrow, or at least a piece of tape on the spokes showing the approximate direction.

Lack of alternate pins. Some of the new holes have multiple pin placements, but the majority of holes only have one. I would like to see more variety as the course kind of gets stale. Also, for many holes, for the average powered RHBH golfer, the same basic shot is the best option off the tee (low fast hyzerflip).

Most holes play fairly, but hole 19 is an exception. There is no defined fairway, so every time playing it is a gamble. There are approaches that have better odds than others, but there's no such thing as "playing it safe."

I may be in the minority, but I'm not a big fan of the finishing holes, 26 and 27. They are fair, but they are short and easy, I feel upset if I don't get 2s on both of them. After a course with challenging par 3s and 4s, ending on a couple pitch and putt ace runs feels out of character. I would rather have seen maybe 6 or 7 challenging holes added instead of trying to shoehorn in 9 holes and having the resulting dinkers.

Other minor quibbles:
--Mixed basket types--most are perfectly fine, but I don't like the homemade "Cool Shoez" baskets, they don't catch as well as name brand ones, and they are nubless which can make for "fun" comebackers.
--Some issues with garbage. Golfers are pretty good about packing out their trash, but after hours teenagers and homeless, not so much.
--The noise of the jets. You get used to it pretty quickly, but it can be a distraction. It's much better on days when they're landing instead of taking off.

This is technically my home course now, and I spend the most time there out of any courses in the area. It's definitely improved since Keith and Chainbangers took over--not only with the addition of the 9 new holes, but with maintenance overall. It used to be that the course would become nearly unplayable in the summer due to overgrown grass, but it is now a treat year round.

Being an urban park, with a sketchy nightlife, the course can never have some of the creature comforts that top rated courses have, like nice teesigns and immaculate benches. That being said, there are still a good amount of benches to be had, and though they're covered in graffiti, they still function well.

I wish that the course had the opportunity to put in a second set of tees, but I don't see that realistically happening due to spacial constraints. I do hope that more alternate placements can be added in the future though, there is certainly potential land to be used for that on some holes. It would make an already great course even better.

-Great Targets
-Diverse hole types requiring both "grip and rip" and finesse shots.
-27 holes

-The last 9 is long. Lots of par 4's. It would be a bit more fun IMO if the back nine was diversified a bit more instead of being one long hole after another.

I like this course a great deal, its one of my favorites in the area. Definitely worth playing!

Great new baskets mixed in with some older (but still good) baskets. Metal hanging signs pointing to next hole were a definite plus (missing a few still). Thanks to the abundance of trees, most of the holes offer some challenges. The holes seem to have a good progression of difficulty allowing you to get warmed up on the first few holes before getting into the more technical stuff. With one exception (don't remember the hole) finding the next tee box was not difficult for a first timer there.

Most of the tee box signage is poor. The signs are mostly just metal frames with plexiglass covered paper. The paper gets wet and moldy even behind the plexi. Since there are nine new holes and a redesigned layout, I expect some more tweaking to pin locations before the final layout is set. Maybe then some better signs will be installed.

Over all, I loved the course. Even though some holes are a little technical, I wouldn't hesitate taking a newbie here. There aren't too many disc eating obstacles, so even though it might take them a few extra strokes, they'll still have a good time and hopefully won't lose any of your discs.