jenb
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The rule allows relief from harmful insects and animals, but not poison ivy or this giant hogweed thing? It just seems wierd that player's can get relief if they see an ant, but not if there is poison ivy or briars.
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Why No Relief from Harmful Plants?
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The rule allows relief from harmful insects and animals, but not poison ivy or this giant hogweed thing? It just seems wierd that player's can get relief if they see an ant, but not if there is poison ivy or briars.
I think the reason why is because those things mentioned in the rule aren't there all of the time but the poison ivy or hogweed is there and could be considered an obstacle. However I know that many clubs really do try to take care of any poison ivy issues that could pop-up but they are not going to be able to get every single bit of it. if that makes sense...
Though I'd favor adding harmful plants to the description, some of the drawbacks are:
* Not everyone can identify poison ivy, etc., so rulings are open to dispute.
* Not everyone is allergic to the same things. Most are allergic to poison ivy but if I'm not, do I get relief to? I played with someone recently who claimed to be allergic to Virginia creeper as well; does he get relief? If he does, do I?
* Not everyone can identify poison ivy, etc., so rulings are open to dispute.
* Not everyone is allergic to the same things. Most are allergic to poison ivy but if I'm not, do I get relief to? I played with someone recently who claimed to be allergic to Virginia creeper as well; does he get relief? If he does, do I?
jenb
* Ace Member *
Are you saying that you have no reaction at all to poison ivy? I thought everyone had a reaction to it, while people who are actually allergic to it blister and scar (me for example) instead of just getting a rash.
The insect nests can be permanent, or more so than a plant.
Yeah, I am not allergic to it either. However I won't ever roll around in it...I don't want to take my chances.
I really good course with really good course maitenance crew will try to eliminate the major spots of any poisonous plant.
I really good course with really good course maitenance crew will try to eliminate the major spots of any poisonous plant.
Cgkdisc
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The simple difference is that animals are mobile and can directly attack you whereas plants have fixed positions which can be seen.
Yes---some people have no reaction at all. They are in the lucky minority.
I was immune for much of my life, in it all the time and never a reaction. About 10 years ago I weedeated a big patch on our disc golf course, aerosoling it, and ever since I've been allergic to the touch (itchy rash level allergy).
biscoe
* Ace Member *
my situation is similar to david's- i never got it until i was 28 years old despite growing up on a farm and being around/in it quite a bit... all of a sudden i was severely allergic... that seems to have tapered off some at this point but i'm still somewhat allergic...
That is exactly what happened to me. I hiked and camped throughout my whole childhood and never got PO until I was in my 30s. I got 3 or 4 really bad cases within 2 years. I haven't gotten it since. Maybe because I always have Tecnu when I golf.
Isn't it an unsafe lie?
When TDing I grant casual relief from it.
Aupps
Par Member
You really can't get relief from cactus? I think that should be in the rule book.
krupicka
Double Eagle Member
The old unsafe lie rule was changed to the unplayable lie rule which was changed to the optional rethrow rule. A player always has the option of throwing from the previous lie with a one stroke penalty. The question in this thread, is why is it not a casual obstacle in which case the relief does not result in an additional penalty.
At events I TD, I usually grant casual relief from Poison Ivy.
At events I TD, I usually grant casual relief from Poison Ivy.
jeverett
Double Eagle Member
Off topic slightly, but plant allergies like this are progressive. i.e. Even if you have no reaction to it now, with continued exposure you will eventually start reacting to it (worse and worse). So don't go rolling around in poison ivy just because it doesn't currently make you itch. 
The problem is that if you start listing all the possible reasons for casual relief you limit TDs to that list. The TD should know their course better than the PDGA.
Technohic
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Off topic slightly, but plant allergies like this are progressive. i.e. Even if you have no reaction to it now, with continued exposure you will eventually start reacting to it (worse and worse). So don't go rolling around in poison ivy just because it doesn't currently make you itch.
but then what will I do for the talent show?
lol but anyway. I could see someone saying they are allergic to everything their disc lands on. TD discretion would be ideal.
Try nettles.
And isn't that more performance art than talent show material?
I am allergic to douchebaggery but I never get any relief from it.
And isn't that more performance art than talent show material?
I am allergic to douchebaggery but I never get any relief from it.
ATrainWecker
Eagle Member
I've played multiple PDGA tournaments here in NorCal with poison oak relief. I personally never take it myself, I'm not very allergic to the plant. But I imagine if I landed in some poison oak, and I had a terrible lie, I'd consider taking it..
My disc is allergic to anything but the bottom of the basket.
My disc is allergic to anything but the bottom of the basket.
It must sneeze a lot then.
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