No 10 Meter Circle

[Horsman]

as long as it's right behind my mini, can i stand on top of my bag and putt?

Nope, that would be considered "Building a Lie" and is not legal

 

[Rockwell]

I get your point.

I don't agree that it doesn't affect putting percentages though

Think of super windy days and the fact that you could step towards the basket. It would definitely help

Plus it would open a whole new can of worms of if the putt was released before the swing foot came down. I can foresee lots of arguments

At 10 meters, a player can move. At 9.99999 meters a player cannot. Why is it okay to make the game easier outside 10 but not inside? Run-ups on tee shots and approaches make the game "easier". I don't see that as a bad thing. This game will continue to be challenging regardless of if we allow players to follow through on putts.

 

[JC17393]

THIS pretty much sums up my first post. Yes courses have designed putting circles sometimes very accurate and others not at all. Not to mention some wooded courses I don't even think there is a defined green that large in the first place.

100% of the courses I've played have no permanent definition to their putting circle other than perhaps OB areas that obviously remove a chunk of the "circle" by making it illegal to play from. Other than that, I've never seen a 10-meter circle that wasn't exactly 10 meters in radius and didn't have 314.159265359 square meters of putting area within it.

 

[Cgkdisc]

Yes, the parameters for making foot fault calls in general and where the 10m circle should be or if there should be one are the most vexing for the RC. The 10m circle came in as an answer to players who were doing deadfall and leaping putts at the target (even before pole hole was invented). That reason still hasn't changed unless we decide to not allow follow through (require stand & deliver) outside 10m so a circle isn't needed.

 

[Thumber]

At 10 meters, a player can move. At 9.99999 meters a player cannot. Why is it okay to make the game easier outside 10 but not inside? Run-ups on tee shots and approaches make the game "easier". I don't see that as a bad thing. This game will continue to be challenging regardless of if we allow players to follow through on putts.

Like Chuck says above, if you allow it then I can start leaping towards the basket.

 

[Rockwell]

Leaping putts (long jump style) wouldn't be a problem, seeing as you must have a supporting point behind your lie when you release a shot.

Deadfall putts would occur, but most people can make an 8' putt without falling.

 

[Aim For The Chains]

you wont have a supporting point in contact with the playing surface when released, so no you cant. I guess if you were tall and lanky you have a slight advantage over short stumpy armed elves

 

[Thumber]

There will be arguments over release during step-throughs.

It will create a similar conundrum to the jump-putt debate

I have watched my fair share of tourny vids and even the guys step putting seem awfully close to a foot fault when they do it

 

[Horsman]

At 10 meters, a player can move. At 9.99999 meters a player cannot.

Then mark your disc and get closer, or if they did already then they shouldn't have so they can be outside of 10 meters.

 

[Rockwell]

Then mark your disc and get closer, or if they did already then they shouldn't have so they can be outside of 10 meters.

I think you missed the point of that statement. Are you for or against the 10' circle rule and why?

 

[Cgkdisc]

My preference would be that the rule be changed to allow jumping in any direction where your last point of contact before releasing the throw still has to be on your 30cm mark and you have to release the throw before making contact again with the playing surface. I think that would add an athletic element to the game for some types of throws such as leaping sideways from behind a bush before throwing.

 

[Rockwell]

There will be arguments over release during step-throughs.

It will create a similar conundrum to the jump-putt debate

I have watched my fair share of tourny vids and even the guys step putting seem awfully close to a foot fault when they do it

That argument is one we have for every shot a player takes. I don't see a way around that argument. What I do see a way around is the "Am I outside?" debate and "Why are shots inside the circle seen differently than those inside?"

Probably because we were trying to replicate Ball Golf and creating a "green".

 

[Aim For The Chains]

My preference would be that the rule be changed to allow jumping in any direction where your last point of contact before releasing the throw still has to be on your 30cm mark and you have to release the throw before making contact again with the playing surface. I think that would add an athletic element to the game for some types of throws such as leaping sideways from behind a bush before throwing.

:hfive: +entertainment value

 

[Thumber]

That argument is one we have for every shot a player takes. I don't see a way around that argument. What I do see a way around is the "Am I outside?" debate and "Why are shots inside the circle seen differently than those inside?"

Probably because we were trying to replicate Ball Golf and creating a "green".

Its a fair point

Maybe eliminate the circle and allow no jumping?

 

[Rockwell]

My preference would be that the rule be changed to allow jumping in any direction where your last point of contact before releasing the throw still has to be on your 30cm mark and you have to release the throw before making contact again with the playing surface. I think that would add an athletic element to the game for some types of throws such as leaping sideways from behind a bush before throwing.

I'm down with this. Injuries are sometimes a price worth paying for having more fun.

 

[UCF_Knight]

My preference would be that the rule be changed to allow jumping in any direction where your last point of contact before releasing the throw still has to be on your 30cm mark and you have to release the throw before making contact again with the playing surface. I think that would add an athletic element to the game for some types of throws such as leaping sideways from behind a bush before throwing.

I did not see that coming lol

 

[Horsman]

I think you missed the point of that statement. Are you for or against the 10' circle rule and why?

For it.

Im 6'6" and with a pretty big wingspan. Without the 10m rule, I could literally just fall over and slam dunk any 8' or shorter putt. Thats kinda stupid if you and me.

 

[Mabuku1]

They are seen differently because you can keep the momentum going forward more with a follow through putt, which is more accurate, so it's seen as cheating. I think the circle should be 50' so there is a definite gap between jump putt and standing putt. At least if they are jumping they are at a more challenging distance. Are you allowed to do a run up in Golf? Why are we allowed to then?

 

[Aim For The Chains]

For it.

Im 6'6" and with a pretty big wingspan. Without the 10m rule, I could literally just fall over and slam dunk any 8' or shorter putt.

that still leaves 22 feet you aren't slam dunking and simplifying the rest of the "circle" jargon.

 

[Horsman]

They are seen differently because you can keep the momentum going forward more with a follow through putt, which is more accurate, so it's seen as cheating. I think the circle should be 50' so there is a definite gap between jump putt and standing putt. At least if they are jumping they are at a more challenging distance. Are you allowed to do a run up in Golf? Why are we allowed to then?

They get a club. We don't.