^^ I think I'll try one, hopefully I can find a C-line non-plus mold. I don't really want any fade at the end. Do these have a sweet spot, once seasoned, where there is little-to-no fade, but its not a turnover/flippy disc?
^^ EXACTLY!
I have two PFNs that do this perfectly (circa 2008 runs domey) , and two that flip like a Roadrunner/Fury from the 1st throw (circa 2004-05 flat)
Not sure why there is such a difference in the ones I have. All of them were new condition as of a couple months ago, other than one of the domey ones which I found at PIAS used. Its actually the most stable one lol.
Glad to hear you say that! I totally agree! Thats exactly how I want them to fly.
Maybe it is the PLH making the difference and its just a coincidence about the domes, I'll check them this afternoon. The earlier flat ones are from a very tacky, gummy-ish, CE like run, and the later domey ones are from a standard Champion run (nice and grippy, feel similar to late 11x/early 12x champ plastic)
Yes, for the most part. Thank you!
Are the speeds and glides similar between the C-TD and the PFN SWs?
The biggest reason I'm focused on this stems from a tourney I played in this weekend.
I changed my bag up to orange discs for spring (from Dayglow) with "carbon copies" of the same molds I carry. I only had a few days to do field work with my new discs. Granted my Leopard was more stable b/c it was fresh, but I know how to compensate for that. Other than that, the rest of the replacments behaved very close to the discs they replaced.
Now to the Point...
I was on a hole that tees from the top of a large bank/hill ~25ft above the long straight FW below. The FW is gaurded by two mature long leaf pines growing from the bottom of the bank. It forces a low cieling drive and prevents a big hyzer release. The hole is a par 4 around 425-450. Once past the trees, the FW is straight and open. Normally this hole has a prevailing tailwind and b/c of that I would throw my SW inlieu of my Destroyer bc I can rip it on a low line that will split the gap, once the elevation drops out under it the SW's glide takes over and it bombs out and doesnt fade off the FW.
Well on this day, there was a strong headwind coming in, and I knew this new flat SW was more US than my previously bagged one. My judgment of the headwind lead me to pull out the G*D. Well, the headwind was stronger than I imagined, and the Destroyer flipped right out of my hand and clipped the overhanging limbs from the left tree sending my drive off to the right and landing right behind a pile of large fallen limbs at the bottom of the hill/bank. (I'm LHBH BTW)
From this lie, at least I was looking at a clear shot of the FW, but I had a long way to go and couldnt get a proper run up. I felt like I was under the strongest part of the headwind and knew I could get good power on my stand still throw. I figured I could rip my SW on a decent hyzer release from a static throw , and ride the wind up the FW.
Well it was a good plan, I got a strong rip on it and it was on line for about 50 ft then that bad boy turned over and flew way to the left over by the next hole's teepad. It covered the distance, but I was pin high 65 ft off to the left from my line. I was able to get a good approach and save par, but that stroke would have made a big difference in my finishing position.
I just know that my other SW would have held the line with the amount of hyzer release I put on it. I could have clubed down and used maybe my leopard or TB but I would have had no chance covering the distance I needed. As it turned out, I guess it wouldnt have made much difference, as I had a long approach anyway. I just felt really let down by my disc. I rarely blame the arrow, bc its usually the archer who made the mistake. I suppose my mistake was disc selection, maybe I should have chosen something slower.
I saw a tip from Feldberg recently where he said to try "flying" a slower mid-stable disc into a headwind as opposed to a faster more OS one. He said the faster disc didnt have time to react to the wind, and was trying too hard to fight against it, causing it to lose momentum and thus distance. Being a mechanical engineer, that got my wheels turning a bit. I'm going to try it in the field next time there is some good wind blowing.
Anyway...Sorry for the long post. I know this isnt a blog lol
