[Other] Expensive for the sake of being expensive

[IllustratorVir]

I am having a tough time figuring out the draw to discs that are expensive for the sake of being expensive. For this particular example, I want to look at the Nate Sexton Firebird. I see folks going bananas for this disc and trying to start bidding wars for this disc. In the end… is it just a Firebird, right? In my opinion, I would rather spend ~$40 on a 2-3 common run molds instead. Additionally, there are so many manufacturers with various plastic options, wouldn't it make more sense to stock up on a comparative alternative?

Don't get me wrong, I get the idea of fundraising discs. Pick up official discs from the pro shops to support your favorite pro, that's different. I can also understand collector discs that have been out of production for awhile. But this seems to be a craze for no real reason. Anyway, maybe I am a stick in the mud, but I don't get it.

 

[Aim For The Chains]

Yeah its pretty dumb. Even people collecting mcpro avaiar which get released in smaller batches to seem limited really are just collecting a stock disc.

That being said a lot of these stock innova will gain value. Look at stupid CE stuff. It literally is at the end of its lifetime and people are crazy over it. Yeahhh lets pay a premium for a thrower that can crack easily?!

This is like solving how many licks will it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop.

 

[clard]

I'm with you. I think some people just like collecting things, and get over excited when they see discs that appeal to them on Facebook. Some part of their brain is triggered that says "Don't miss out on this! You might never have another chance at it!" and they give in, haha.

 

[MrGlass01]

I capitalize on it. I have a bin of discs I paid 15-20 on. Now all of these are fetching 35-50 each. Not a bad investment.

 

[bradharris]

People are willing to throw in a couple extra bucks to make sure to get exactly what they want, especially if it's not available in regular production. There's nothing wrong with that.

 

[Aim For The Chains]

Eh plastic is not an investment.... At all...

Good way to gamble some extra $ is more like it.

Ehat happens when these new players who have never heard of CE or XYZ run and could give 2 ****s less what they throw? ... Same for any stock thats hyped. Look at how the early gstar stuff went up and down now its flooded the market lol even in regular star stamped softer blends.

Its all just fun. People pay a premium for lots of things they want in this world. USA USA USA! lol

 

[MonkeyGrass]

Tell me about it. There's a certain group of folks on FB that drive up every standard VIP/TP Warship auction to the stratosphere. They "collect" 'ships... uhhhh ok.. it's a very common production disc - there's no need to run every single one up to $35+

I don't get it. These guys just buy them all up to hang them. WTF?!?! Not a special limited stamp, or a certain color/run. Just normal, run of the mill $15 discs. I just don't get tripling the price of a standard, off the shelf production disc...

 

[kevdiv48]

Its all just fun. People pay a premium for lots of things they want in this world. USA USA USA! lol

 

[ill4mation]

In all fairness, those Sextons are awesome throwers. I bought 3 when they came out. I'd like a few more but I'm not paying 40+ for one.

 

[Horsman]

For this particular example, I want to look at the Nate Sexton Firebird. I see folks going bananas for this disc and trying to start bidding wars for this disc. In the end… is it just a Firebird, right?

Incorrect, it is a modified firebird mold. Not the same as a regular firebird you can pick up from anywhere. The Sextons are pretty much broken in firebirds.

 

[Puckstopper]

Eh plastic is not an investment.... At all...

Nope, but I can't say I've never paid a little extra for a disc. I just picked up a sweet Glo FLX Roach with a Memorial stamp for my wife. It was a few bucks more expensive than the Big Z Roach it was sitting next to, but she liked the color/stamp combo better so who cares? In college the extra $4 might have meant something to me, but at this stage of life it's literally pocket change.

If the person buying the disc earns a decent living and feels that the disc enhances their life by whatever the price is, knock yourself out Now, if you're living on some sort of gov't assistance and you're buying $50 discs I have a problem with you, but as long as you're spending your own money I could give 2 craps what someone else pays.

 

[KniceZ]

Beanie Babies, baseball cards, pez dispensers, even old cars - whenever a group of people think something is "collectable" the value is going to go up. It's worth whatever someone else is willing to pay. It doesn't mean it has any intrinsic value.

I just ignore it all and let people spend their money.

 

[runningDoc]

expensive for being expensive is perplexing.

people paying out the nose for discs like sexton firebirds, mcpro aviars, and ring of gator champ gators, hannah terns, etc which will be available for stock pricing some time throughout the year within month intervals does boggle common sense.

that being said....

there are some discs who's run are clearly consistent in plastic quality/characteristics and flight. like a FAF firebird, brinster teebirds, 2nd run C-FD, 3rd run C-PD, ect. if I know what I'm getting then I don't mind.. I'll pay extra for them not for collecting purposes but for throwers.

but even then I'll be on the lookout for stock/current run discs that can be replacements. my bag is all stock and x-outs except for two discs: 2nd run C-FD and 3rd run C-PD. I'm not loyal though... if i find a new stock current run that is comparable I'll drop the expensive/rare stuff quickly.

I also throw a FAF champ firebird (but you can find FAF champ firebirds stock sometimes if you're lucky randomly at places like local disc golf shops/Academy or Dicks/Sports Authority just like you can find great star destroyers once in a while).

 

[VictorB]

I am having a tough time figuring out the draw to discs that are expensive for the sake of being expensive. For this particular example, I want to look at the Nate Sexton Firebird. I see folks going bananas for this disc and trying to start bidding wars for this disc. In the end… is it just a Firebird, right? In my opinion, I would rather spend ~$40 on a 2-3 common run molds instead. Additionally, there are so many manufacturers with various plastic options, wouldn't it make more sense to stock up on a comparative alternative?
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A lot of times people like those type of discs simply because it's a way to identify a particular run.

I really think Millineum hit the nail on the head with run versions being printed on discs. (ie Orion LF 1.2) If all companies did this, it would be easier to identify the run you want and boutique discs like your example of a Sexton firebird might not fetch such a high price.

 

[rocthecourse]

Eh plastic is not an investment.... At all...

I have bought quite a few discs for investment purposes only and have done very well. My most recent sale was a protostar Thunderbird that I bought for $12+tax and sold for $89.99-fees, only had the disc about 7 months.

When I look through people's used bins most of what I am looking for is purely for resale value down the road.

Am I going to retire on disc sales? No. But if you totaled up every dollar I have spent buying discs and every dollar I have made selling I am at the point where I have more than broken even and I still have lots of discs to sell.

The key is smart purchases and patients.

 

[Stable]

Incorrect, it is a modified firebird mold. Not the same as a regular firebird you can pick up from anywhere. The Sextons are pretty much broken in firebirds.

They're also not champion plastic. They are absolutely a star blend and shouldn't be advertised as champion. Very pretty discs no doubt but they need to stop with that false advertising. My Firebirds will always be max weight and actually made of champion plastic.

 

[BuzzzChief]

Welcome to throwing Legacy. They release all kinds of things in special limited runs, and the value immediately skyrockets because collectors hoard them all. The lightweight 1st run Pinnacle Outlaws are already selling for almost double the original price they sold for last month. Want to make a few bucks guaranteed? Buy a few Enemies the day they are released. Guaranteed they will be available for a day or more on the initial run, but 3 weeks later people will be falling over each other to pay $25-30 for one. It's frustrating because I really love the plastic, but it's impossible to find backups once you like something. If you didn't get it on the first release, you're paying a huge premium.

What cracks me up is the people paying way over list price without checking to see if they are still in stock anywhere. I saw first run Outlaws selling for $25-30 on the collector page when they were still available from multiple stores for $19.99. Yesterday someone was listing a sparkle Nemesis on the FB collector page for $25, they have like 20 of them in stock at Infinite Discs for $17.99.

 

[Pbmercil]

What cracks me up is the people paying way over list price without checking to see if they are still in stock anywhere. I saw first run Outlaws selling for $25-30 on the collector page when they were still available from multiple stores for $19.99. Yesterday someone was listing a sparkle Nemesis on the FB collector page for $25, they have like 20 of them in stock at Infinite Discs for $17.99.

Yup. I see this all the time and it's pretty insane.


I will pay well over stock prices for hard to find runs of discs that I love. I think the collector market is wierd but people seem to enjoy it so whatever.

 

[Dan Ensor]

WTF is a VRoc anyway???

 

[VictorB]

WTF is a VRoc anyway???

If a comet and a roc had a baby, you end up with a VRoc.