Who will be the next first time winner?

[EllEstar]

AB and Evaliina if she hasn't won yet. If she has, AM.

Out of all the names mentioned, I think there are several that could win an event. AB should win an event for the same reasons that Blomroos and Evalina should. Each of them can play at the top of the field and they each have a critical flaw that costs them the win. For all three it's putting. AB putts great until he 3 putts. Blomroos and Evalina seem to struggle regularly with putting.

But for a solo pic to win a DGPT event, I'll go with Ella. She keeps chipping away.

Didn't Henna win the European Open a year or two back? No idea how that ties in with the DGPT though.

I'd love to see Holyn Handley win, but I suspect she needs another year to polish it up. That scoober she threw worried me
Macie would be a great pick - she has all the tools.

Too many options on the MPO side, but AB looks a good pick this year.

EVEliina won Waco that one time didnt she? Or Memorial. Or whatever that thing was lol.

EO is home turf, doesnt count

Anywhoo, I've no idea who AM is.

Eveliina has won two DGPT events, WACO in 2020 and Memorial in 2019. She also won Konopiste in 2018 when it was a Major.

Henna has never won European Open, nor any DGPT or NT event. She is a 2 time champion of the European Disc Golf Championship however, which is a bi-yearly A-tier that European countries get to send a certain amount of players to based on how good they are at disc golf. It's one of the biggest events in Europe with a lot of history, but definitely not a tour event or Major.

 

[nothinbuttree]

Eveliina has won two DGPT events, WACO in 2020 and Memorial in 2019. She also won Konopiste in 2018 when it was a Major.

Henna has never won European Open, nor any DGPT or NT event. She is a 2 time champion of the European Disc Golf Championship however, which is a bi-yearly A-tier that European countries get to send a certain amount of players to based on how good they are at disc golf. It's one of the biggest events in Europe with a lot of history, but definitely not a tour event or Major.

Thanks for correcting my bad assumptions!

 

[VictorB]

MPO - Proctor

FPO - Handley

 

[@CD-]

Joel Freeman won in Pittsburgh last year
DGPT Silver series at North Boundary park

Who do you think will be the next player to get their first Pro Tour win?

In my opinion, the best MPO candidates are Corey Ellis, Anthony Barela, Cole Redalen and Aaron Gossage. (I'm going with Ellis)

In FPO it seems like Holyn Handley, Macie Velediaz and Ella Hansen are on the cusp of getting a win. Handley has been very close recently, but poor final rounds have cost her the win.
(I'm going with Handley)

I never would have guessed that Sai Ananda would get a DGPT win, but what do I know?!

Didn't Henna win the European Open a year or two back? No idea how that ties in with the DGPT though.

I'd love to see Holyn Handley win, but I suspect she needs another year to polish it up. That scoober she threw worried me
Macie would be a great pick - she has all the tools.

Too many options on the MPO side, but AB looks a good pick this year.

Macie Velediaz won one of the wrap-around Silver Events last year.
Sai Ananda's win at TX States was a Silver event (beating top rated Kristin :thmbup.

Silver event A-tier win =/= DGPT Elite Series or National Tour win IMO. The level of competition is sometimes similar but most of the time only 1-2 of the 1040+ rated MPO or 960+ rated FPO enter the Silver Events. I expect a few new Silver event winners as the tour progresses and those top rated golfers no longer need Silver event points and begin taking off weekends for rest & travel when the event precedes/follows a Major or to/from Europe.

The runner-ups at Majors and DGPT events are always good bets as well. I would certainly give Silver event winners a look to win at the DGPT Elite or Major event level.
Since DMC 2022 here is the list (L->R is my prediction of most likely to least if healthy) -
FPO: Blomroos, Hansen, Velediaz, Ananda, Oliva, J. Allen
MPO: Barela, Aderhold, Orum, Anttila, Freeman, Ellis, Gossage, Burridge

Red are hot round golfers - high birdie rate + low OB rate gets them in contention
Orange are consistent golfers - solid rounds, regular top 10s
Blue are weather & course dependent

Some golfers aren't on DGPT full time (Europeans, Americans only playing subset of US events for various reasons) so that limits some chances.

 

[biscoe]

Macie Velediaz won one of the wrap-around Silver Events last year.
Sai Ananda's win at TX States was a Silver event (beating top rated Kristin :thmbup.

Silver event A-tier win =/= DGPT Elite Series or National Tour win IMO. The level of competition is sometimes similar but most of the time only 1-2 of the 1040+ rated MPO or 960+ rated FPO enter the Silver Events. I expect a few new Silver event winners as the tour progresses and those top rated golfers no longer need Silver event points and begin taking off weekends for rest & travel when the event precedes/follows a Major or to/from Europe.

The runner-ups at Majors and DGPT events are always good bets as well. I would certainly give Silver event winners a look to win at the DGPT Elite or Major event level.
Since DMC 2022 here is the list (L->R is my prediction of most likely to least if healthy) -
FPO: Blomroos, Hansen, Velediaz, Ananda, Oliva, J. Allen
MPO: Barela, Aderhold, Orum, Anttila, Freeman, Ellis, Gossage, Burridge

Red are hot round golfers - high birdie rate + low OB rate gets them in contention
Orange are consistent golfers - solid rounds, regular top 10s
Blue are weather & course dependent

Some golfers aren't on DGPT full time (Europeans, Americans only playing subset of US events for various reasons) so that limits some chances.

Yeah. I don't equate Silver Series with the "big wins" even though I ran the one Macie and Luke Samson won.

 

[txmxer]

Who do you think will be the next player to get their first Pro Tour win?

I am assuming that anything that counts for pro tour points would qualify based on the original question, thus Silver, Elite, or Major.

 

[ejvogie]

Yeah. I don't equate Silver Series with the "big wins" even though I ran the one Macie and Luke Samson won.

Scored a round for Luke at DGLO last year. Super nice. I'd like to see him win.

 

[biscoe]

Scored a round for Luke at DGLO last year. Super nice. I'd like to see him win.

He is just a great dude to be around. I am a big fan at this point.

 

[@CD-]

I am assuming that anything that counts for pro tour points would qualify based on the original question, thus Silver, Elite, or Major.

Original post called out Ananda for winning a Silver event but not Velediaz :wall::\

The variability of the field quality for Silver events makes them inconsistent for counting as a Pro Tour win even with the tour points being counted. Maybe OP can clarify?

Also, there are multiple European tours so should those count as well?

 

[lrshooter12]

Anywhoo, I've no idea who AM is.

Alexis Mandujano would be my guess.

 

[EllEstar]

Original post called out Ananda for winning a Silver event but not Velediaz :wall::\

The variability of the field quality for Silver events makes them inconsistent for counting as a Pro Tour win even with the tour points being counted. Maybe OP can clarify?

Also, there are multiple European tours so should those count as well?

I think the best (only?) objective strength of field ranking we have is Statmando's Event Strength of Field Rankings.

According to those Beaver State Fling and the Open at Belton were the only Silver events last year where the SoF was on par with Elite events for the FPO.

For the MPO it was those two and maybe Master's Cup as well. All others had a considerably weaker field. Heck even the European Open, a Major, had a weaker field than those.

No non-Major European events come close.

 

[txmxer]

Original post called out Ananda for winning a Silver event but not Velediaz :wall::\

The variability of the field quality for Silver events makes them inconsistent for counting as a Pro Tour win even with the tour points being counted. Maybe OP can clarify?

Also, there are multiple European tours so should those count as well?

This is reading in to the original question. I assume the Velediaz win was simply an oversight since Sai's win was the basis for the question.

I understand the point about SoF, but a win over KT seems to cover the issue. Kind of like Eagle beating McBeth at the EO. the field was irrelevant.

 

[Flick Maniac]

I think the best (only?) objective strength of field ranking we have is Statmando's Event Strength of Field Rankings.

According to those Beaver State Fling and the Open at Belton were the only Silver events last year where the SoF was on par with Elite events for the FPO.

For the MPO it was those two and maybe Master's Cup as well. All others had a considerably weaker field. Heck even the European Open, a Major, had a weaker field than those.

No non-Major European events come close.

I dont know how that stat is calculated but I assume its by all participants. If you would look at , lets say, only the top 20 rated players it might be a different story?

 

[Shallows]

I dont know how that stat is calculated but I assume its by all participants. If you would look at , lets say, only the top 20 rated players it might be a different story?

Presumably doing so would impact the European Open even further.

 

[Shallows]

Sort of related/inversion question:

Is there a 1030+ rated DGPT regular you think will not feature on a lead card this season?

Wysocki, Conrad, Klein(!), Freeman, Conrad, Robinson, Ellis, Clemons, Harris, Gurthie have yet to.

Gotta say I'm a bit worried about James, though I know the courses haven't really been suited to him.

 

[Brockness Monster]

I think we already saw Clemons(Austin?), Freeman(Austin?) and Klein(Waco), but maybe I'm thinking of other tournaments or maybe feature cards.

Edit: Klein and Gurthie on Feature cards. can't find anyone of these on a lead card

 

[Chucker60]

Who do you think will be the next player to get their first Pro Tour win?

In FPO, Caroline Henderson has had some good finishes but no wins yet - I think she has what it takes.

 

[Countchunkula]

Sort of related/inversion question:

Is there a 1030+ rated DGPT regular you think will not feature on a lead card this season?

Wysocki, Conrad, Klein(!), Freeman, Conrad, Robinson, Ellis, Clemons, Harris, Gurthie have yet to.

Gotta say I'm a bit worried about James, though I know the courses haven't really been suited to him.

I really wish Gurthie would switch to a different style of putt. He's such a skilled thrower with elite power and finesse. His janky hyzer putt is never going to yield elite results though.

Spoiler

Easier said than done of course and he could rightfully say that the same applies to my driving form x10.

 

[Sewer bill]

I really wish Gurthie would switch to a different style of putt. He's such a skilled thrower with elite power and finesse. His janky hyzer putt is never going to yield elite results though.

Spoiler

Easier said than done of course and he could rightfully say that the same applies to my driving form x10.

I think he just gets in his own head and chokes. I have played with him when there wasn't any pressure and he was knocking them down from 50 and in as if they were tap ins.

 

[txmxer]

I think he just gets in his own head and chokes. I have played with him when there wasn't any pressure and he was knocking them down from 50 and in as if they were tap ins.

I think that is probably pretty common amongst the top pros. Gurthie's form requires him to be pretty spot on to make putts. Obviously he feels it is what works best for him, but it seems to me to be difficult to develop the level of proficiency and consistency to compete with others that are otherwise performing similarly outside of the putting green in pro level competition.