You misunderstand me. I'm not hoping to prove Josh is doing a "cash grab" by showing that he's making a pile of money. I'm suggesting ways in which he could refute the charge by providing some data. Player improvement data would be useful in showing that he was a good coach, while providing information on his "coaching tree" would help refute the idea that he doesn't work with other coaches. Disproving it being a "cash grab" could involve showing a flat income, documenting a history of working with players gratis, or providing some other evidence of his honorable motives.
Sorry. I stepped away from the thread. I'm not shy about these questions but created the AMA thread so people could ask them there.
Ideally the questions you are asking should have been posed by Sheep
before his allegations and the whole conversation would have been avoided altogether.
Perhaps it would provide more clarity if you'd like to offer some information about
- coaches that you regularly work with
- your income from coaching before and after starting to push YT content
- professional players that you coach
Regarding coaches I have had open communication with: Seabas22, AceIt/Brychanus, Jaani, Slingshot, Brian Earhart, Chris Taylor, Loopghost, Joonas, Robbie C, Trebuchet, Clint/Blitz, DiscMD, Danny Lindahl, Pete Ulibarri, and Holyn Handley just off the top of my head.
Regarding income: I'm unsure of the phrasing and relevance of my income to whether or not this is a "cash grab" for me. A cash grab has the
sole intent of making profit. The intent being more pertinent than the amount. My sole intention is not to make as much money as I possibly can. I would not be in coaching if that were the case rather I would have built out the back end of my buddies real estate business and taken commission per house sold plus salary.
I will answer your question regarding my income but as others have stated I don't think it will definitively prove anything other than the fact that I am not currently making a lot of money.
When OT started I was a new Director of Tennis at a country club. I was paid salary plus program profits. My take home was about $4,000-5,000 monthly. When I switched from Director to OT full time my monthly income from Overthrow was $2,000 a month and I was dipping into savings to feed my family of 4. A couple months after that my savings were drying up and Mikey and I both increased our take home pay to $2,500 monthly. A year and my third child later we increased our monthly take home pay to $3,000 a month. This is where we are currently and I take care of my family of 5 on this income.
Our total salary is $9,000/mo
-$3,000 to Mikey
-$3,000 to myself
-$1,000 to Dakota as part time employee as shopkeeper.
We also rent an office space for $1,250 a month. This is where I teach, Mikey edits, and our inventory is kept.
I believe those are the numbers you're looking for, but again, my intent doesn't change even if my take home goes to $20,000/month. I do intend on making more money than I'm currently making at some point. I have, against recommendation of some, kept my rate at $100/hr despite having the demand to justify an increase.
Regarding professional players I coach: this one also doesn't make sense to me as a litmus test. Does a good coach only coach players on the pro tour? If they don't have students of that caliber is there less merit?
Nevertheless people that I worked with during this previous offseason were: Evan Smith, Andrew Marwede, and Justin Rosak (less so than the other two).
^^^ this was just a screenshot I had handy. They didn't play as well last tournament.
I also work with a couple "lower" level pros.
Happy to answer any remaining questions on my own thread.