NatiBuckeye
Eagle Member
Yet another inconsistent mold from Innova? Who'd have thought it?
Do you think the pros get like extra special molds'?
Like the best baseball players get the vest wood bats?
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Yet another inconsistent mold from Innova? Who'd have thought it?
I've heard the Destroyer is better in the wind and the Boss may not be the best disc for beginners but dang does it go.
I have only thrown the R-Pro Boss (150) and the 150 destroyer. Of those 2 I like the Boss hands down.
In my experience the Boss is very overstable in Champion but a little less overstable in Star and even more understable in R Pro. I think that this conversation has brought up one interesting point about the Boss. It seems that its mold is very inconsistent.
why is eveyrone comparing a 150 boss to a destroyer?!?!?!? of course you will be able to throw the 150 further than a 170-175 destroyer.....if your gonna compare the 2 you have to compare the same plastic and same weight....
IMO i believe the destroyer is a lot better disc for distance, BH.....the boss just seems to be too much for me, and its only a 172....but my destroyer thats the same weight i can turn over if i want it too....ive never even been able to turnover my boss bh, its more of a specialty disc for hard left skips for me.....now if you throw fh it depends on how much of an arm you have, but if you can really bomb it out there the boss will be your best bet although theres really not much difference at all....
Do you think the pros get like 'extra special molds'?
Like the best baseball players get the best wood bats?
Correct me if I'm wrong (and SOMEONE will ), but doesn't the Champ come in heavier weights than Star, which is heavier still than R-Pro? This would GREATLY affect the stability ratings of the different plastics. Heavier discs are naturally more stable.
sorry the two fastest overstable drivers are actually three and they arent either of those they are the x-calibar,tee-rex and max.In a battle between Innova's two fastest overstable discs, The Boss and Destroyer which one wins? I personally have only used Boss's but a lot of my tourney buddies play with Destroyers. I've heard the Destroyer is better in the wind and the Boss may not be the best disc for beginners but dang does it go. I will throw my chips in with the Boss, but I'm actually making this thread to see what the differences are more then anything. So bring on the opinions, gripes, applause and let the battle begin. PS: Eric could you set up a poll on this.
sorry the two fastest overstable drivers are actually three and they arent either of those they are the x-calibar,tee-rex and max.
the boss and destroyer are both stable drivers
Yes for inhumans who throw 400 plus consistently they are are "stable" drivers. But for the rest of us regular Joes those discs are wickedly overstable regardless of there flight ratings.
Yes for inhumans who throw 400 plus consistently they are are "stable" drivers. But for the rest of us regular Joes those discs are wickedly overstable regardless of there flight ratings.
I disagree, I can't throw 400', but the destroyer definitely has high speed turn when thrown flat for me, as opposed to the xcaliber which really is overstable, and starts fading right out of my hand it feels like.
I'm not trying to insult you here, but if you can't throw it without it being crazy overstable, it's too much disc for you. Calling it overstable because you're not ready to throw it yet only hurts you and those who listen to you. I'm sure even those "inhumans" with cannons learned to crawl before walking (and walked before they ran). They were probably bit by the "latest and fastest disc" bug, too.
You may find, though that your game might improve faster if you throw discs that are more consistent with your ability. Everyone wants to buy a Corvette when they should be buying a Cavalier. Unfortunately when someone buys a Corvette when they're not ready, they wind up wrapping it around a tree.
I agree. I didn't like the Destroyer or the X-Caliber much when I threw them, but they are definitely night and day on the stability scale.
I can't say this is true for a Boss because I've only thrown one once, but the Groove shouldn't be that overstable - nowhere near a Destroyer either. You really have to put some serious spin on it to get the flight right though. It took me a while to get the hang of it but can definitely say it's not overstable (the Groove, that is). I throw light weights too (why I chose the Groove over the Boss), so maybe a lighter Boss would help curb some of the serious fade you're getting.
Just thinking about it, I've heard several of the locals near me say that they have gotten both super overstable and practically understable Bosses from the same stack on the same day. I think the super overstable ones are pretty rare, so maybe you just got lucky with it.
That's all I've ever seen for the groove and boss. My Destroyer if not thrown with just the slightest hyzer at full power will have a gradual anhyzer and then come back. All the boss wants to do is hyzer hyzer hyzer all day long. The groove is getting better as I beat it in, but when I first got it, that's all it does.
I'm going to keep beating these against trees... maybe one day they will be true to what Innova says they are. BTW I know a guy that throws a beat in Xcal that is stable as hell... In my opinion, the Destroyer, the XCal and the Gateway Illusion are the best high speed drivers out there. I still think the Illusion is faster than any other driver I throw...
personally i dont think molds can vary as much as you are describing. Beating a disc against a tree or the ground is not the answer. Getting discs that fly at your appropriate speed or learning correct release angles is.
Not to be brow beaten by people who clearly know more then me on the matters of disc golf.