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I love my Groove! I use it so much now. Just break it in!
How much breaking does it take?
I want to beat off to my groove.
I want to beat off to my groove...
inconsistency in plastic?..different weights?...boss should be more stable...i flip a boss over and won't bother with a groove because i know it is less stable...they were pulling your leg or their definiton of stable is different than mine..
I'm confident in my understanding of the terms we're using. Have you ever thrown a Groove? 'Cause your ability to flip a Boss over is consistent with what others have said here.
As for the weights question, both my quickly-becoming-beloved Surge and my thusfar disappointing Groove are marked right at 170g. The Surge may be "broken in" a little, but it's only superficially scuffed if anything. It could be the result of some kind of manufacturing variance or maybe the FLX plastic makes discs less stable. I do hear that the Champion plastic is more stable, and my experience jibs with that, but as far as I know, the Groove is only made in Champion.
i have 2 bosses(same weight) and one is considerably more stable than the other...thats why i first wrote inconsistent plastic..i have noticed this in several models of innova plastic..as far as the groove being listed as less stable, it is in my experience
I throw all three of the discs you're talking about. Boss, Groove and especially the Surge. I don't know what is wrong with the disc classifications and ratings but I can agree with everything you're saying about the flight characteristics. I use a RHBH with these discs and the Groove falls way short. I can S the Boss all day. The Surge has a nice fade right for me at the end. I still haven't found a use for the Groove.
My groove is certainly easier to turn over than any of my bosses, it is a little overstable, but will have a nice right turn if you really get some zip on it...
I have 2 Bosses, an R-Pro 150G and a Champ 173G, the 150 class goes nice and straight with little fade, the heavier Boss gets some good D and has a nice moderate fade at the end. I also have a 157G Groove, overstable as hell-it reminds me of a Flick.