Casey 1988
Shun the frumious Bandersnatch!
I'll drift. I've seen a Roach, ran an Ace Race with them a few years ago. Have not really thrown one. Why would it be comparable to a lid-style putter like a Rattler or Super Puppy?
At least people can agree that the Birdie is not a true lid due to its thumbtrack grove. Roach is not quite a lid being how shallow it is but is more so then the disc I just mentioned. Pole cat is like a Putt'r just the Putt'r is made in only in one plastic now and is not for everybody just for that reason. Pole Cat is made in R-Pro as well as DX so both choices are avalible.
If one wants a driving Magnet they should get a Innova Hydra as it is more stable like a Challenger type disc but less low speed dump at the end.