I don't disagree, but that ignores the fact that a high speed driver continues moving at a higher speed a ways off the tee, and is more likely to go farther and more off course than a slower, more controllable disc.
True.
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I don't disagree, but that ignores the fact that a high speed driver continues moving at a higher speed a ways off the tee, and is more likely to go farther and more off course than a slower, more controllable disc.
If you watch the Masters Cup coverage from the Central Coast Disc Golf YouTube channel you can see Philo driving most holes with DX Rocs
I read the first couple pages only...........
Kind of crazy for a co-owner of Innova to say this considering the vast majority of sales are high speed drivers (I am basing that on sales stats that Marshall Street has posted in recent years).
I wonder if he is focused on the potential danger high speed wide rimmed drivers pose to people AND the courses, high speed drivers are harder on trees and bushes.
A couple months ago, Charlie Rose interviewed Jack Nicklaus right before the Masters, and Jack said that in his day golf was 20% about power (he was the biggest hitter on tour in his early days), and these days it is 80% about power, so Tiger and crew must have huge, yet controlled power on tour these days.
And I think disc golf is going down the same path, and it might work for Will, Ricky, GG, etc., but not so great for the average player, the average player struggles to really go 400+ with high speed drivers consistently, and with control.
I am excited about discs like the Trespass that seem much more controllable, and to some degree are more of a beefed up fairway driver than just another max width, sharp edged high speed driver.
There is a video on youtube where the Ricos interview Climo, and he said he prefers the older days of weaving flippy discs through fairways versus blowing out overstable high speed drivers.
I do think Final9/safari rounds are a little odd when they basically boil down to nine 1,000+ foot holes created by connecting 2 holes together to render the longer layout and just watching Will, Barsby, Nikko launch bombs.
In ball golf, you will have a standard number of par 3,4,5 holes on each course, too many disc golf courses are just 400-450 foot holes (at least in my area), so you just need a high speed driver and a putter, which is lame, I want to use the whole bag in a round.
He pulled a hat out of a duffel bag for each aspect of the above items and set them on a stool. He said this stack of hats represents my life and career. He proceed to take a stack of max weight high speed drivers and threw the whole stack at the hats and knocked them off the stool. He then said heavy, sharp, and wide rim discs are ruining everything he has worked his entire life for and our sport can not sustain this model.
I do think Final9/safari rounds are a little odd when they basically boil down to nine 1,000+ foot holes created by connecting 2 holes together to render the longer layout and just watching Will, Barsby, Nikko launch bombs.
In ball golf, you will have a standard number of par 3,4,5 holes on each course, too many disc golf courses are just 400-450 foot holes (at least in my area), so you just need a high speed driver and a putter, which is lame, I want to use the whole bag in a round.
Interesting parallels to the MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) Summit meetings in the 70s and 80s involving long range Nukes...
2. Beginners/Casual should know the rules when they play. If you have any common sense it tells you not to throw on top of someone. Seriously, this is how people get hurt.
A lot of casual are unaware there are rules, or that discs are designed for different uses. Case in point, last week was helping someone find a missing Mamba. Couldn't find it, but found an unmarked TRex. I handed it to him and tried to explain the differences and watched his eyes just glaze over.
Forget enforcing it, how many chuckers (with only one disc that happens to be a high speed driver) would read the signs informing them of that standard or care?
Doesn't matter. The chucker is the negligent party at that point, and as such is liable. As opposed to PDGA or Innova.
Shusterick had the worst injury I've seen caused by a disc last year (it was a popular photo I'm not going to try to find). I've seen worse from a baseball hit foul. In multi-use areas. But there's an expectation that passers-by should be aware of a baseball game. Or a golf course. Or any sport other than disc golf.
I've only read through 13 pages of this discussion, but Christian Sandstrom set the last distance record with a Valkyrie at over 820'??? And it's a speed 9 disc. What's the problem?