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Haybro Red Tail DGC reviews
4
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Hey it's Stellato
Experience:
24 played
22 reviews
Must-play Colorado course 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Sep 16, 2018
Played the course:once
Pros:
- Beautiful scenery, the course plays up and down a hillside in a semi-tight valley outside of Steamboat Springs. The course utilizes rugged, mountainous land on a cattle grazing range. You will play cross-hill, up-hill, and will also have several shots where you shoot from up on the hill down to the pastures below.
- Perfectly maintained baskets with HUGE (I mean HUGE) red flags on each basket. Never before has spotting the pin been so easy. This was huge.
- Maps are provided to aid navigation, along with some charming home-made signage that gives this course a fun backyard feel.
- Professional tee signs are installed with hole names and extensive details about distance and elevation changes for each hole. There is even a nice little writeup suggesting how to attack the hole.
- This course is very strenuous for walking around with tons of uphill. Recommended only for fit players who enjoy a good hike.
- There were tons of grazing cattle on the course, they roam freely into the fairways and greens. It was pretty entertaining and I think added to the charm of the course... just watch where you step!
- Cool mini-markers help you determine your line on blind hole placements. The map recommends a position for spotters, I had never used this before but it is a GOOD idea for this course! Player 2 would spot when Player 1 threw his drive, then player 1 would locate their disc before returning the favor and spotting player 2.
- Perfectly maintained baskets with HUGE (I mean HUGE) red flags on each basket. Never before has spotting the pin been so easy. This was huge.
- Maps are provided to aid navigation, along with some charming home-made signage that gives this course a fun backyard feel.
- Professional tee signs are installed with hole names and extensive details about distance and elevation changes for each hole. There is even a nice little writeup suggesting how to attack the hole.
- This course is very strenuous for walking around with tons of uphill. Recommended only for fit players who enjoy a good hike.
- There were tons of grazing cattle on the course, they roam freely into the fairways and greens. It was pretty entertaining and I think added to the charm of the course... just watch where you step!
- Cool mini-markers help you determine your line on blind hole placements. The map recommends a position for spotters, I had never used this before but it is a GOOD idea for this course! Player 2 would spot when Player 1 threw his drive, then player 1 would locate their disc before returning the favor and spotting player 2.
Cons:
- Not much to complain about here:
-it's strenuous hike but you knew that going in...
-there are some blind holes where a disc could get lost, but the map recommends a spotter so you knew that going in...
- it's $5 to play, but you're likely to have the course to yourself, plus you knew that going in...
Aside from continuing to improve tee pads, I'd recommend next updates here would be better defined parking area and a little better presence at the beginning of the course. Will be back for sure and will try to catch it earlier in the day to take advantage of lightest winds.
-it's strenuous hike but you knew that going in...
-there are some blind holes where a disc could get lost, but the map recommends a spotter so you knew that going in...
- it's $5 to play, but you're likely to have the course to yourself, plus you knew that going in...
Aside from continuing to improve tee pads, I'd recommend next updates here would be better defined parking area and a little better presence at the beginning of the course. Will be back for sure and will try to catch it earlier in the day to take advantage of lightest winds.
Other Thoughts:
Thank you to course designers and those maintaining this course!
Designer response by mmueller
Thanks for the great review and suggestions. Much improvement to the teepads, including 9 new ones, grounds, and signage has been going on in the 2 years since you played. There is now a 1,600 SF shop with an upstairs deck of the same size, though the deck is still under construction. When finished there will be a large eating area, a cafe, a bar, and restrooms.
2
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calebf
Experience:
1 played
1 reviews
A Special Spot 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Jul 17, 2016
Played the course:once
Pros:
This is a very cool course to experience. A low key way to play a private spot. The other reviews are pretty spot on. The owner puts A LOT of effort into maintaining an interesting and challenging course. It has a couple of great "mando" shots! Bring friends to help you enjoy. You will likely have it to yourself. Nice spot to enjoy at the first tee/18th basket. Great use of elevation change on a few holes. It's rustic, but really legit!
Cons:
If you play solo, you're gonna loose a disc? But, I do that all over. But, honestly spotters help, a lot.
Other Thoughts:
I must say, the $5 & waiver requirement to play is really fair. Owner puts in work here! Don't be "that guy"... Keep it casual and open for the rest of us.
8
0
Well Designed P2P 2+ years
Reviewed:
Played on:Aug 3, 2016
Played the course:2-4 times
Pros:
I am very impressed when a private individual takes on the task of designing and building an 18 hole course, and then opens it to the public. This piece of land was made for disc golf, with tons of elevation and thick tree cover.
There is a lot of variety out here, with hole lengths varying from 150' out to nearly 400'. Most have a significant elevation change as well, and virtually all require shaping your drive through or over trees.
Just to give an example of the variety out here, the first three holes are:
Hole 1 - 218' with 47' uphill elevation
Hole 2 - 360' with 100' downhill elevation
Hole 3 - 310', flat, with a pond in play
Many of the holes are blind (or nearly so) from the tee. Between the descriptive tee signs and the addition of mini-baskets out in the fairway on the line to the basket, you'll get some very useful help when playing the blind holes. But you'll still be walking forward a good bit to figure out where you're going and how to get there.
Two holes have mandos which add interest, including a triple mando that created a low-overhead tunnel shot.
I didn't find any of the sections repetitive or monotonous. I enjoyed the shorter "hyzer over the top" holes as they still demanded precision to land your drive close to the basket. Miss even a little and you're in the trees.
A few teepads are wooden decks which are large and flat. I liked them fine and they had good traction. The remainder were natural ground that had been flattened out. They were very large and worked well. With rain or snow-melt I can imagine some mud issues, but that didn't impact my rounds at all.
Baskets are all Innova Discatchers in perfect shape. That yellow band is a big help in spotting the pins.
Tee signs include a good aerial diagram of the hole, cross-section showing elevation gain/loss, tips for playing the hole (appreciated!) and some interesting info regarding the name of the hole and how it came to be called that. A nice personal touch.
Hole-to-hole navigation was great. Obvious trails and signs make it simple to find the next hole.
Overall I thought this was a great example of a challenging pay-to-play course. It is tougher than either of the other two courses in Steamboat, but if you are up for the challenge you should give it a whirl.
Given the amount of work and $$ to develop and maintain this course, the $5 fee is a bargain.
There is a lot of variety out here, with hole lengths varying from 150' out to nearly 400'. Most have a significant elevation change as well, and virtually all require shaping your drive through or over trees.
Just to give an example of the variety out here, the first three holes are:
Hole 1 - 218' with 47' uphill elevation
Hole 2 - 360' with 100' downhill elevation
Hole 3 - 310', flat, with a pond in play
Many of the holes are blind (or nearly so) from the tee. Between the descriptive tee signs and the addition of mini-baskets out in the fairway on the line to the basket, you'll get some very useful help when playing the blind holes. But you'll still be walking forward a good bit to figure out where you're going and how to get there.
Two holes have mandos which add interest, including a triple mando that created a low-overhead tunnel shot.
I didn't find any of the sections repetitive or monotonous. I enjoyed the shorter "hyzer over the top" holes as they still demanded precision to land your drive close to the basket. Miss even a little and you're in the trees.
A few teepads are wooden decks which are large and flat. I liked them fine and they had good traction. The remainder were natural ground that had been flattened out. They were very large and worked well. With rain or snow-melt I can imagine some mud issues, but that didn't impact my rounds at all.
Baskets are all Innova Discatchers in perfect shape. That yellow band is a big help in spotting the pins.
Tee signs include a good aerial diagram of the hole, cross-section showing elevation gain/loss, tips for playing the hole (appreciated!) and some interesting info regarding the name of the hole and how it came to be called that. A nice personal touch.
Hole-to-hole navigation was great. Obvious trails and signs make it simple to find the next hole.
Overall I thought this was a great example of a challenging pay-to-play course. It is tougher than either of the other two courses in Steamboat, but if you are up for the challenge you should give it a whirl.
Given the amount of work and $$ to develop and maintain this course, the $5 fee is a bargain.
Cons:
My biggest con out here is disc-finding, which is challenging to say the least. I played my first round with Mark (owner) and Greg and that was a huge help. But we still spent plenty of time looking for discs. My second round was solo and that was even tougher. With the combination of many drives landing out-of-sight and the thick tree/brush/grass cover you will spend plenty of time looking for discs. Having a spotter is a huge help.
Some of the final holes didn't have tee signs (yet). I am sure that they are in the works and just haven't gotten mounted yet.
Some of the final holes didn't have tee signs (yet). I am sure that they are in the works and just haven't gotten mounted yet.
Other Thoughts:
This course is an amazing effort by Mark and Greg, and is a work in progress. They are still clearing fairways, adding signs, improving teepads, etc. It is in great shape for play as it is, but I imagine it will only improve with time.
The course is physically demanding. I wore long pants and hiking boots and was glad I did.
The course is physically demanding. I wore long pants and hiking boots and was glad I did.
11
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ninjalectual1
Experience:
10.9 years
32 played
8 reviews
One of Colorado's great "hidden gems" 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Nov 14, 2015
Played the course:once
Pros:
*One of the most technically challenging courses I've played. In short: the course makes creative use of elevation and any other natural features the land provides. It forces a variety of different throws, using a variety of different discs to get the job done. It also demands a higher level of physical fitness than front range courses.
*Several holes had beautiful natural fairways leading up to the basket, usually on a slope perpendicular to the initial direction of the drive, and with trees crowding the entrance to the fairway, adding difficulty. A variety of forehand and backhand throws are all but mandatory here.
*Only one or two holes give you a straight line at the basket (and even those have complicating factors precluding anything too straightforward). You're constantly forced to lean on the disc's natural hyzer (or anhyzer) movement, usually with no good option besides putting a lot of air under the disc to allow for enough turn and/or fade to get you where you need to be. This is something I don't get to practice on any of my home courses.
*Most of the blind drives feature a mini-basket displayed prominently in-line between the tee and the basket, providing guidance on where to aim.
*I didn't feel like the final stretch was monotonous at all, as others have complained. I quite enjoyed it, and I found dealing with the huge elevation drops quite challenging (then again, maybe people complain *because* it's so challenging? And if it's not that hard, why isn't anyone scoring aces? ).
I had to learn quickly that on an average length hole (say, 230 ft), a large elevation drop (between 40 and 90 vertical ft) changes EVERYTHING. It plays more like a short 120 ft hole, but one that requires all the contol and none of the power you would expect.
*Several holes had beautiful natural fairways leading up to the basket, usually on a slope perpendicular to the initial direction of the drive, and with trees crowding the entrance to the fairway, adding difficulty. A variety of forehand and backhand throws are all but mandatory here.
*Only one or two holes give you a straight line at the basket (and even those have complicating factors precluding anything too straightforward). You're constantly forced to lean on the disc's natural hyzer (or anhyzer) movement, usually with no good option besides putting a lot of air under the disc to allow for enough turn and/or fade to get you where you need to be. This is something I don't get to practice on any of my home courses.
*Most of the blind drives feature a mini-basket displayed prominently in-line between the tee and the basket, providing guidance on where to aim.
*I didn't feel like the final stretch was monotonous at all, as others have complained. I quite enjoyed it, and I found dealing with the huge elevation drops quite challenging (then again, maybe people complain *because* it's so challenging? And if it's not that hard, why isn't anyone scoring aces? ).
I had to learn quickly that on an average length hole (say, 230 ft), a large elevation drop (between 40 and 90 vertical ft) changes EVERYTHING. It plays more like a short 120 ft hole, but one that requires all the contol and none of the power you would expect.
Cons:
Not much to complain about without picking nits, and pretty much all of these problems stop being relevant once you've played the course a few times.
*Navigating some of the blind holes can be tough for first timers, but the course did take measures (like the mini-baskets) to mitigate it.
*Several holes had steep drop-offs immediately past the basket that weren't apparent from afar, constituting unfairly severe penalties for near misses in the wrong direction.
*Though there are clearly visible signs marking each teepad, they are handmade, and discerning the meaning of each sign isn't always obvious, notably on holes with separate "high" and "low" tees. It's unclear which tee is more challenging, aka which to consider "pro" and which is "am."
*Navigating some of the blind holes can be tough for first timers, but the course did take measures (like the mini-baskets) to mitigate it.
*Several holes had steep drop-offs immediately past the basket that weren't apparent from afar, constituting unfairly severe penalties for near misses in the wrong direction.
*Though there are clearly visible signs marking each teepad, they are handmade, and discerning the meaning of each sign isn't always obvious, notably on holes with separate "high" and "low" tees. It's unclear which tee is more challenging, aka which to consider "pro" and which is "am."
Other Thoughts:
This course perfectly illustrates a reoccurring debate I've been having with friends: is it better to throw a tomahawk over everything to get the lowest possible score on a round at all costs, or is it better to face challenging, closed, or curving lines head-on, aiming to navigate them "properly" with finesse? Personally I fall squarely into the latter camp, as I think nailing a challenging line with a memorable shot is what it's about. I can fondly recall lots of great shots I'm proud of, but I don't have anything enduring or interesting to say about any of my lowest scoring rounds.
I had lots of fun playing this course on a day that probably shouldn't have been nearly so much fun. The course was under 6+" of melting snow, and what wasn't snow was probably mud slicks, but I didn't have any trouble walking between holes or finding errant drives. Finding traction on the snowed-in tee pads was a different story, though. Run-ups were all but impossible without slipping and sliding during your wind-up or release.
After dropping off my signed waiver form, I was planning on playing a couple holes before deciding whether to leave a donation, as I sort of expected to get sick of fighting the conditions after a hole or two. But a local dude arrived and ended up taking me through all 18, and of course by the end all that mattered was changing into warm and dry clothes, and I forgot to go back and leave a donation. I feel awful about it, since the owner of the land was extremely nice over the phone, and the course itself is great fun. Of course if he even noticed he's way too chill to say anything about it, which to me only makes it worse. Don't let yourself make the same mistake I did!
If nothing else, at least it's an excuse to make it a point to come back for another round the next time I'm anywhere near this part of the state!
I had lots of fun playing this course on a day that probably shouldn't have been nearly so much fun. The course was under 6+" of melting snow, and what wasn't snow was probably mud slicks, but I didn't have any trouble walking between holes or finding errant drives. Finding traction on the snowed-in tee pads was a different story, though. Run-ups were all but impossible without slipping and sliding during your wind-up or release.
After dropping off my signed waiver form, I was planning on playing a couple holes before deciding whether to leave a donation, as I sort of expected to get sick of fighting the conditions after a hole or two. But a local dude arrived and ended up taking me through all 18, and of course by the end all that mattered was changing into warm and dry clothes, and I forgot to go back and leave a donation. I feel awful about it, since the owner of the land was extremely nice over the phone, and the course itself is great fun. Of course if he even noticed he's way too chill to say anything about it, which to me only makes it worse. Don't let yourself make the same mistake I did!
If nothing else, at least it's an excuse to make it a point to come back for another round the next time I'm anywhere near this part of the state!
Designer response by mmueller
A very commendable and truly DG guidebook quality review. Thank you ninjalectual! Also, the constructive criticism was just that, constructive. I purchased a laminator, work to improve signage is in progress, and hopefully signage at Redtail will be a relic issue for the 2016 summer season.
6
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thatdirtykid
Experience:
19.6 years
89 played
13 reviews
Nice to be away from the city. 2+ years
Reviewed:
Updated:
Played on:Aug 20, 2015
Played the course:once
Pros:
The course is obviously evolving still, my guide who is local even was unaware of some of the newer work.
The baskets are nice and there are fun trinkets to be found around the course.
Good use of the elevation, some good up, down and across shots.
The greens offered good challenge when it comes to putting. The style of growth was fun to navigate.
Quiet. The course and the landscape was quite serene.
Its not overplayed. Some of the mountain courses on the front range reminded me of La Mirada in the sense that everything is worn down and discs bounce and roll away and there is more hardpan than grass.
The baskets are nice and there are fun trinkets to be found around the course.
Good use of the elevation, some good up, down and across shots.
The greens offered good challenge when it comes to putting. The style of growth was fun to navigate.
Quiet. The course and the landscape was quite serene.
Its not overplayed. Some of the mountain courses on the front range reminded me of La Mirada in the sense that everything is worn down and discs bounce and roll away and there is more hardpan than grass.
Cons:
EDIT: IT APPEARS A FEW OF MY CONS HAVE BEEN IMPROVED ON. The owner of the course is constantly been putting in work to make it a good place to play. I am excited to play it again.
The vegetation here was relatively short, and aside from a few well placed tees over the top was always a choice.
It was hard to find discs at times, and having some one spot is a good idea on a few blind holes.
The course got a little monotonous on the final stretch. All the holes were putter length hyzers over the top of the short growth.
It could be difficult but far from impossible to navigate the first time.
The vegetation here was relatively short, and aside from a few well placed tees over the top was always a choice.
It was hard to find discs at times, and having some one spot is a good idea on a few blind holes.
The course got a little monotonous on the final stretch. All the holes were putter length hyzers over the top of the short growth.
It could be difficult but far from impossible to navigate the first time.
Other Thoughts:
The area is still improving, and has a bit of potential. The designer mentioned the possibility of some longer tees.
This was a great change of pace from the golf on the front range especially in the city. I will play it again when in steamboat. I look forward to seeing the course evolve.
This was a great change of pace from the golf on the front range especially in the city. I will play it again when in steamboat. I look forward to seeing the course evolve.
Designer response by mmueller
Thank you for playing Red Tail and posting your comments. Nothing has produced more debate between players on the course than the section of holes that you call "monotonous". It has created a divide between players that love them because of the high demand for accuracy paired with a big risk/reward factor, and the players that usually dominate with a strong arm, like on other holes at Red Tail. I've played with a lot of people on this course and, though it's common on other holes at Red Tail, it's pretty much a given that players will attempt 2 or more drives whenever they can on those holes in search of their own elusive line to a look on the basket. 16 now has had a triple mando through the tunnel of trees, which makes the need for accuracy more obvious.
We've done our best to compensate for the short vegetation along the fairway by creating many more hazards on the greens that increase the risk on the over the top throws and, as the course matures, that will become more obvious. Given the feedback and average score seen on the course, it's pretty clear that it is much more challenging then many other courses out there.
The changes over the last year, with longer pin placements and 4 par 4 options have received a lot of praise, I hope you get a chance to come back and see what you think. Newer course maps indicate holes where spotters are highly recommended and the best place to spot. Hopefully that will reduce the lost disc problem.
Cheers!
We've done our best to compensate for the short vegetation along the fairway by creating many more hazards on the greens that increase the risk on the over the top throws and, as the course matures, that will become more obvious. Given the feedback and average score seen on the course, it's pretty clear that it is much more challenging then many other courses out there.
The changes over the last year, with longer pin placements and 4 par 4 options have received a lot of praise, I hope you get a chance to come back and see what you think. Newer course maps indicate holes where spotters are highly recommended and the best place to spot. Hopefully that will reduce the lost disc problem.
Cheers!
5
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Beautiful Land for a Great Course 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:May 29, 2015
Played the course:once
Pros:
-Elevation is a very strong point of this course. There are uphill, downhill and even quite a few side-hill shots. The majority of holes have some sort of elevation change on them.
-The first two holes are a great way to open up a course. You start out throwing straight uphill on a guarded basket position on Hole 1. Hole 2 is a big downhill hole to the basket in a small meadow. It was quite a memorable way to start the course.
-Lots of memorable holes on this course. Hole 8 is a short very steep hole, 7 is a very memorable hole that throws over the trees across the hillside.
-The flow of the course makes a lot of sense and it is really easy to follow. Between the holes there are painted circles that point you in the direction of the next hole. We never got lost while navigating the course.
-Lots of really tight holes. There are very wide open holes on this course (Hole 3 is a fairly open but it also has a water obstacle on it). You definitely have to hit your line in order to score well, or you will be hitting a lot of trees.
-I like the idea of using old disc golf discs as the tee-signs. It was a nice unique touch for the hole. I also liked how each of the holes had a name, that's always a nice small touch.
-In a very secluded area outside of town in a beautiful setting.
-Baskets were like new and caught very well.
-The first two holes are a great way to open up a course. You start out throwing straight uphill on a guarded basket position on Hole 1. Hole 2 is a big downhill hole to the basket in a small meadow. It was quite a memorable way to start the course.
-Lots of memorable holes on this course. Hole 8 is a short very steep hole, 7 is a very memorable hole that throws over the trees across the hillside.
-The flow of the course makes a lot of sense and it is really easy to follow. Between the holes there are painted circles that point you in the direction of the next hole. We never got lost while navigating the course.
-Lots of really tight holes. There are very wide open holes on this course (Hole 3 is a fairly open but it also has a water obstacle on it). You definitely have to hit your line in order to score well, or you will be hitting a lot of trees.
-I like the idea of using old disc golf discs as the tee-signs. It was a nice unique touch for the hole. I also liked how each of the holes had a name, that's always a nice small touch.
-In a very secluded area outside of town in a beautiful setting.
-Baskets were like new and caught very well.
Cons:
-The tee-pads need some improvement. They were mostly dirt, and a few were really muddy.
-Overall, the course was quite muddy and several sections especially some of the steeper areas could use some stone steps to help make traversing it a little easier. (To be fair we did play this course after a very wet spring comparatively for Colorado, so the mud was probably worse than usual).
-While I love the disc tee-signs, much of the writing on them was starting to fade, so a little more permanent option on them and they would be perfect.
-I loved the really tight holes, but a couple of them seemed a little too tight and could use a little more clearing.
-There is quite a bit of underbrush on this course, so you might be looking for your disc for a while on some holes, but we used a spotter on several holes and had very few issues.
-Overall, the course was quite muddy and several sections especially some of the steeper areas could use some stone steps to help make traversing it a little easier. (To be fair we did play this course after a very wet spring comparatively for Colorado, so the mud was probably worse than usual).
-While I love the disc tee-signs, much of the writing on them was starting to fade, so a little more permanent option on them and they would be perfect.
-I loved the really tight holes, but a couple of them seemed a little too tight and could use a little more clearing.
-There is quite a bit of underbrush on this course, so you might be looking for your disc for a while on some holes, but we used a spotter on several holes and had very few issues.
Other Thoughts:
Overall, this was a great course. It is still a little rough around the edges but it is already a great course and it looks like it will continue to improve. Make sure you break lots of water and are ready for a hike as this course will definitely get you breathing a bit with all the up and downhill. If you are anywhere near Steamboat, make sure you hit this course.
Designer response by mmueller
Thank you for playing Red Tail and for the thoughtful review. You played at the tail end what Steamboat calls mud season and on what happened to be the wettest mud season on record. Your timing must have been particularly bad because we've been able to hold frequent tag matches throughout the rainy mud season without issue, but it looks like the ground finally decided enough is enough. The tee-signs have been updated and over 1000 hours of brush clearing have been accomplished since you were here so hopefully you'll get a chance to see the improvements some time soon.
5
0
razorado
Experience:
18.9 years
10 played
1 reviews
great for the area 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:May 2, 2015
Played the course:5+ times
Pros:
-Great views
-Mix of up and down
-New baskets
-Close-ish to Steamboat
-Great owner
-Lots of elevation change
-Has tons of working potential
-Mix of up and down
-New baskets
-Close-ish to Steamboat
-Great owner
-Lots of elevation change
-Has tons of working potential
Cons:
-Lots of underbrush (young course)
-Similar length shots
-Blind shots, hard to pick a consistent line till you are much more familiar with layout.
-Similar length shots
-Blind shots, hard to pick a consistent line till you are much more familiar with layout.
Other Thoughts:
Great course, great owner, tons of possibility of change and improvement. Would love to see more people playing and showing initiative to help shape this into a Championship course. Continuous interest will and donations will really do lots for this community.
5
0
2+ years
Reviewed:
Updated:
Played on:Nov 7, 2014
Played the course:5+ times
Pros:
- Brand new disc catcher baskets
- the first 4 holes feature "deck" style tee pads made out of wood, very unique
- quality tee signs that offer a ton of information
-this course uses elevation better than any course I have ever play, lots of unique shots with extreme elavation change
- good variety of distance with shots ranging from short 175' shots to around 350' but those are uphill 350' shots that feel more like 450'
-lots of challenging and unique holes with lots of high risk high reward type shots
-beautiful views of the Sleeping Giant and Hahns Peak
-the layout of the course brings you right back to where you park, very little unnecessary walking required
- there are multiple holes that offer different pin placements, along with multiple tee pads turning some holes into par 4s
-the owner of the course is a great guy!
- the first 4 holes feature "deck" style tee pads made out of wood, very unique
- quality tee signs that offer a ton of information
-this course uses elevation better than any course I have ever play, lots of unique shots with extreme elavation change
- good variety of distance with shots ranging from short 175' shots to around 350' but those are uphill 350' shots that feel more like 450'
-lots of challenging and unique holes with lots of high risk high reward type shots
-beautiful views of the Sleeping Giant and Hahns Peak
-the layout of the course brings you right back to where you park, very little unnecessary walking required
- there are multiple holes that offer different pin placements, along with multiple tee pads turning some holes into par 4s
-the owner of the course is a great guy!
Cons:
- 14 dirt tee pads, which for the most part of great as far as dirt tees go, but I'll put it in as a con
- lots of rough terrain to battle and lots of thick bushy areas
- fairly easy to loose a disc on an errant shot
- lots of rough terrain to battle and lots of thick bushy areas
- fairly easy to loose a disc on an errant shot
Other Thoughts:
This is a great course with tons of potential and it is being improved upon everyday. I would highly recommend checking this course out, but be ready for a hike. Bring boots and lots of water!
Designer response by mmueller
Thank you for the review of Red Tail DGC. Signage is now first rate on all 18 greens and 34 tee pads. There are even signs as you exit a green and move to the next hole, in cases where there are multiple tee pad options, to aid the player in choosing their preferred next tee.
