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Tyler V
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Experience: 16.9 years 150 played 99 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Limber Up Before Playing 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Oct 1, 2020 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Logan University is home to a disc golf course that provides a good amount of variety, including some challenges you won't see at many other courses in the area. This course will definitely test your endurance, and a low score will leave you feeling accomplished.

Looking at other reviews for Logan, it's clear that this course opened with a confusing layout. The map on site as well as on DGCR is updated, and for the most part, the current flow of the course is easy to follow. While there can be a hike between holes at times, the tee signs have the direction of the next hole on them. Certain parts of the course also have additional directional signs to help. This is especially helpful between holes 9 and 10, and navigating between holes 12, 13, and 14. The bulletin board and tee signs also includes information about out of bounds and course rules, providing more information overall than most tee signs you will find anywhere else. Overall, the signage on this course is superb.

The course is sporting turf tees, which are nice to throw off of. I do not have much experience throwing on turf tees during wet conditions, but they were nice to throw off of while dry, and left me feeling confident that I wouldn't have any slips. These tees are in pretty good shape, and had limited lumps. There were a couple in the more wooded areas of the course where the tees are starting to surrender to the dirt around them, but there weren't any tees that were rough to throw off of.

The baskets, like with many courses in the area, are Gateway Titans. They are in great shape, and look more updated than the pictures on here show. There's also a bright orange practice basket with plenty of open space at the start of the course, which is a nice touch. You could go pretty far out from the practice basket before running into the fairway of hole 3, and the hilly terrain means you can get some elevation practice in before starting your round.

The holes on this course provide a lot of variety, more so than many other St. Louis area courses. You will find just about every combination of wooded, field, tunnel, uphill, downhill, flat, and water hazard shots throughout your round. You will find that this course comes with varying risk/reward opportunities, and will also provide the chance to utilize your whole bag of discs.

Hole 6 has to be the signature hole of this course, and is probably the most intimidating hole here. Your opening drive carries over water to start, and has a fairway that follows a very steep hill that goes between the woods and a pond. There's a clear landing zone opportunity not far across the pond, along with a lower landing spot between the field and woods before the fairway closes, but pushing your drive up the fairway has significant risk. This lake has surely claimed hundreds of dollars in plastic. Hole 16 also carries over water, but with more land along the right of the fairway you can follow if you choose to play it safe.

As stated above, the rest of the holes provide plenty of variety. Holes 1 and 17 are tunnel shots with a right finish, Holes 2 and 13 start open with a wooded pin location, and Holes 8 and 18 provide opportunities to bomb a shot as far as you can throw. There's truly something for everyone here.

Cons:

This course is brutal to play, and is physically demanding not only on your arm, but your legs as well. While I don't count this against the course as a whole, my main gripe with the layout is that hole 18 ends a decent walk from the parking lot, requiring you to then hike back up the hill past holes 9, 3, and 1 to get back to your car. Unlike a few of the other courses in the area like JB and Unger, you do not go near the parking lot again after the tee for hole 4, so plan to go the full 18 before seeing your car again.

Holes 12 and 14 also closely follow a tall chain link fence that separates the course from private property - you will see houses and backyards right next to you as you tee off at both of these holes. By itself, hole 14 would make for a very fun downhill drive that would be a highlight of a round at most other courses. However, the fence will likely leave you hesitant to air one out as much as you usually would. It is clear from some of the signage in this part of the course that some neighbors may have/continue to be annoyed by louder groups of disc golfers or ones that hop the fence to get a lost disc. I don't feel as though the fun design aspects of hole 14 is worth the frustration of either disc golfers or neighbors, as the fence really hugs the fairway all of the way to the pin. It looks like there's work being in the woods around holes 11 to 14, so this may be an area that is undergoing redesign; I don't know for sure.

The brush on this course, combined with the number of holes that have blind shots to the pin or landing zones, means that this course sees a large number of lost discs. Playing a round solo means that one errant throw or kick could leave you looking for a disc for a significant portion of time. Even holes like hole 3, which has an open A pin placement, can leave you looking for a disc that went into some woods that you didn't realize came as close to the fairway as they do. This is one course where having others in your group that can play spotter can make for a significantly more enjoyable round.

The roadway along the fairways of holes 9 and 18, along with hole 8's pin, is very active. There are signs that warn about this, but be careful with your drives.

Since there are significantly wooded areas, be careful of poison ivy.

I did not notice any significant drainage issues, but even with the lack of recent rain before my round, the area between holes 10 and 16 had some mud and standing water. Be careful in some of the lower lying areas of the course like at holes 7 and 8, but overall this course doesn't look like it would have as many issues as other courses in the area.

Other Thoughts:

Overall, this course provides a lot of variety but can make for a brutal round. It is a physically demanding course to play, so make sure you have good shoes and stretch before your round. It is on the property of a private university, so make sure you are respectful and pick up after yourself.

Updated on 1/14/21 to fix grammar and improve details.
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JZOTTZ
Experience: 9.1 years 1 played 1 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Avoid when wet and leave your cart at home. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 26, 2018 Played the course:once

Pros:

Challenging course that requires a variety of precision shots and incorporates risk/reward. Very well maintained grass and surrounding areas. Great use of elevation, tress, and land.

Cons:

Dangerous to play when it's wet. There are major elevation changes that make it slick and difficult to traverse when the muddy. Natural tee pads are ankle snappers. There are several holes where you must cross over water ways, rock drains, and roads. This is not a good course for carts.

Other Thoughts:

This course has potential. Install teepads, bridges and marked pathways between holes and you will improve this course greatly.
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JFraz
Experience: 8.9 years 12 played 1 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Great Redesign of the Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 14, 2017 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This course is hands down one of my favorites! Dave and the guys at Gateway did a great job when they recently redesigned and turned it into a premier course.

-For starters, the flow of the course is no longer an issue.
-The holes offer a great mix of different shots, from long bombs to the shorter more technical shots.
-Logan University is very good at maintaining their landscaping, i.e. grass mowed, downed trees/limbs removed within a couple days.
-Metal tee signs that are easy to read.

Cons:

If you are a beginner to disc golf or if you are wanting a casual round to feel good about, this course is not for you.

-Water is or can potentially come into play on multiple holes (1, 3, 8-12, 16). I have lost quite a few discs to the ponds on holes 8 and 9 so beware.
-Just about every hole has the potential to wreck your score for the round.
-There are a lot of blind tee shots here so you will want to pay close attention to the direction your disc goes.

Other Thoughts:

Overall, I think that this course while challenging, is also one of the best in the St. Louis area. For someone playing here for the first time, I would suggest you print out a course map to help navigate.
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urbs22
Experience: 28.9 years 64 played 3 reviews
2.50 star(s)

Great Potential, Awful Flow 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jul 29, 2016 Played the course:once

Pros:

-The first 3 holes were great. Well-protected pin on #1, tight but fair downhill and short on #2, scenic and tough hole #3. I was very excited about the rest of the course after playing those 3.

-Use of elevation. Many course have rolling fairways and drop-offs at pin. But, they are rarely used as they were here. Hole 2 was a short downhill, while hole 5 was uphill and right. I found elevation to be used well. Hole 14 (?) was a tricky uphill shot to a pin tucked up to the right. These add to length of course without needing more space.

-Course maintenance. I will give the course credit, they keep it in great shape. Scenic views, rolling hills, great land for a disc golf course.

Cons:

Where to begin...

Course flow: This has got to be one of the worst courses I have ever played as it relates to the flow between holes. Early on, a couple baskets had the orange tape to guide me in the right direction. But I spent more time walking between holes than I did walking the actual holes.

After hole 3, you can see 4 tee signs. The first 2 obvious ones are 9 and 18. Cross the road and you find 4 and 12. That area is a mess, and if you do not know where you are going it takes forever to find your way.

After hole 8, you have to walk all the way back to where you were before after hole 3. This is all well and good since I saw 9's tee after 3. But how do you get there? Well, you are supposed to know to walk down, around the lake and cut back along a path behind 13's tee. What a mess.

Lastly, I gave up trying to navigate after hole 14 and did not even play the last 4 holes. The course map on DGCR was not correct, since they apparently are making some hole changes. This would be nice to know at the beginning of the course. Some of the tee signs were mislabeled, where hole 13 became hole 14. So someone just crossed it off and wrote "fourteen."

The last hole I played (14,15?) played down a narrow tunnel, with a fence on right and water down by pin. After that hole there is no guidance where to go next. If you travel up to the right, which seemed logical, you hit a 5 foot ravine you cannot cross easily. Down to left? That's hole 17 (?) to some basket.

Pin placement: There is also no indication what pin placement it is in or a good idea of where the pin is even if you know. I had to walk up nearly every fairway just to find where the pin actually was (hole 4!) . This was true even on the short holes. I think I walked almost up to the pin on 12 of the 15 holes I played. Blind shots are cool sometimes, but it can be overkill.

Other Thoughts:

This course has so much potential, with beautiful land, well-manicured ground, scenic shots with elevation changes, and challenging shots. Other than the blind shots and having to walk up on nearly every fairway, the holes themselves are pretty good. If I rated this course on the holes alone, I would have to give it a 3.5.

But the poor flow and navigation just kill this course. Unless you plan on playing with someone who knows the course, I would not bother. If they are in the process of redesigning, something on the main course board at hole 1 would be very beneficial to all players, not just out of towners.
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bwgrotha1s
Experience: 6 played 6 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Brutality 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jun 22, 2016 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

**--Currently in very good shape. Grass was just cut, fairways on #11, #12, and #15 are actually dry (mostly). Play now for a great experience.

**--New placement for #3 is fantastic. Makes drives less intimidating while still incorporating the water trap.

--One of the best looking courses (if not the best) in St. Louis county. Scenic lakes and water fountains, surrounding affluent communities, beautiful use of elevation and rolling hills.

--Fantastic variety for hole placements. All types of shots will be used.

--Truly challenging; formulaic setup for obstacles on each hole.

--Some holes are among the most fun you'll play in St. Louis.

Cons:

--Brutally difficult course.

--Woods can claim your disc on many holes upon a bad toss or roll.

--Water obstacles prevalent on about four of the holes that are usually deep and cruddy ponds/lakes. You will not be getting your discs back unless they manage to float near the edges.

--Constant fear of losing a disc will hinder your abilities.

--Absurd drainage issue across the course that creates pure swamps on hole #11, #12, and #15.

--Horrendous navigation scheme.

-- I get the feeling that there was 0 effort put into #17 and it was a rushed production. This hole is also very dangerous and needs to be re-designed straight up.

**--So many of the signs need a reprint. The back half has a bunch that either have two different numbers or just the wrong number. Navigating this course is already hard enough but with incorrect hole numbers? (Thank you to those who tried to verify with sharpie on the signs which holes these actually are.)
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AustinD23
Experience: 1 played 1 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Nice Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 16, 2015 Played the course:once

Pros:

Awesome course. Good mix of long and short distances with a nice mix of open field and wooded areas.

Cons:

It's a bit confusing to navigate, but there's a map available (I'll put a link to it on here) lots of walking back and forth, wear comfortable shoes

Other Thoughts:

Cool course, definitely the one of the best in the area!
http://www.logan.edu/mm/files...ourseMap2.pdf

Here's a map of the course
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stubborn puppet
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Experience: 13.3 years 48 played 27 reviews
2.00 star(s)

The Logan Paradox 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 20, 2014 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

> A dramatic and incredibly challenging piece of land for a course.
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> Some of the holes really, really express what a championship level course should be about.
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> In many ways, it's perhaps the most challenging course you'll ever find. Mostly, this is a good thing. The hazards are real and numerous, the wooded shots are fair, but not forgiving and the terrain changes on some holes will really put you to the test.
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> Many holes are just so incredibly unique - nothing else like them elsewhere.
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> If you need a good workout while getting in a game, this course will give it to you for sure. Every time I play here I feel like I've spent two hours on a stair climber.
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> There is a really good mix of distances throughout. The long holes earn their length creatively and are not just long for the sake of long. The short holes aren't, mostly, just easy little pitch-in filler holes - they are a unique challenge... mostly.
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> With a couple of really bad exceptions, the course plays very safe. There shouldn't be any risks at all of discs coming into range of any non-golfers. There are rare occasions where people are fishing in one of the ponds, but I get the impression that this isn't encouraged.
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> I love holes which mix open fields and tight woods into one, and Logan has plenty of these. Awesome.
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Cons:

> Without any doubt, this course has the most dreadful navigation of any course I have ever seen. This is a result of two decisions that come into direct conflict with one another: 1. Logan administration was adamant that it only wants players to cross the road at one specific crosswalk. 2. The course design is very obviously forced into the purpose of creating two 9 hole loops that each come back to the parking lot. If the course design ignored this desire to create two 9 hole loops, it could have been much, much better by leaps and bounds and explored an even greater variety that this dramatic property has to offer.
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> As a result of the above con, one gets the feeling that they spend more time hiking at Logan than they do playing - a lot more.
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> There is a serious safety problem right off the bat at hole 1: It throws blindly over the heads of players on 18. And players finishing on 18 are walking blindly over a ridge and right across the hole 1 fairway to get back to their cars.
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> Another problem is the conflict between 9 and 18. They tee off, going the same direction, up the same fairway. It's not a huge safety concern, per se, as long as people are courteous of others (which we all know isn't always the case), but it's darned annoying to have to wait for or feel like you're being waited on so that two holes can share part of the same fairway. It's unnecessary.
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> There is also a walk from hole 8 that crosses right across the blind approach to basket 16. It just doesn't make sense why this risk was taken.
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> The dirt teepads at this course are pretty much done. They absolutely must be regraded or finally replaced with the concrete that was supposed to have been part of the original plan. In many places, especially when it is even a little moist, you must tee from the grass off to one side or the other - the mud here is as slippery as snot and you will end up on your butt.
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> There is so much climbing involved in navagating this course, yet the places where "steps" were dug into the dirt for future pavers never got finished and never got pavers. Now, it's just a gruelling and dangerous clambor up and down steep hills, grasping for trees to hold while you pull your way up. It's really almost a deal-breaker - and many people should really think twice about attempting this course - even when it's fully dry (which is rare).
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> Adding more pain to the above con: There is a major drainage problem in many spots at this course. For example, the walk between 10 and 11 is a total bog and almost the entire fairway for 12 is a bog just the same. There are many spots like this and, as erosion takes its toll, this standing water problem just continues to get worse.
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> Another thing that one will notice at Logan is that it is almost all "uphill". Sure, there's a small downhill shot at 2 and 10... and there's a real downhill at 15, but that's spoiled by the proximity to the fence to private property that hugs the entire fairway, forcing players to look to delicate midrange glides or rollers to stay inbounds. Other than that, most of the time it's either uphill or over a hill. It get's exhausting, especially when it feels like there were several opportunities to really explore a downhill run.
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> There is punishment for a bad shot, and then there is just downright sadistic brutality. I was, at first, a big fan of some of the evil basket placements and fairways at Logan - I love to be challenged and I actually enjoy learning from my mistakes. However, over time, this courses idea of this concept has become loathsome. This is a personal opinion, but I am tired of chasing discs into ravines because of baskets placed on 45°+ slopes and I'm tired of losing at least one disc per visit into one of the 6 times the deep and murky ponds come directly into play. I'm all for water hazards, and a smart player can learn to avoid them - but there are so many times here where it is just impossible to avoid them and still maintain par. I'm being a whiner, but it gets old replacing a loved disc every time I visit Logan and I've been forced to bring junk discs with me to help aleviate the concern.
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Other Thoughts:

Overall, the fact that this course is just so darn full of amazing potential and beauty is what kills me. All the "why" and "only if" I experience at Logan is just so painful. I want, so much, to love this course. There are still many holes that are well worth while and some really good disc golf to be played, but for every positive, there's another heavy negative.
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There was a redesign here a couple of months ago. And it all made the navigation, variety and enjoyment factor worse. I "get" why it was done - to help keep players crossing the street at the crosswalk. But, if the course weren't pigeonholed into those two 9 hole loops, this wouldn't have been an issue in the first place.
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I really hope that some drastic measures are taken to give this property the treatment that it deserves, because it could be one of the best courses anywhere... if only.
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blake13
Experience: 12 years 74 played 5 reviews
3.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 13, 2014 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

- An 18-hole course in West County
- Beautiful scenery
- Good mix of elevation
- Well-maintained

Cons:

- Natural teepads
- Several holes with unreasonable pars
- Legitimate water hazards that might not even be avoided with a decent shot
- Poison ivy in woods (left me itching for two weeks)
- Poor flow at several points (if you don't go with someone who knows the course, you will get lost)
- Absence of trash cans

Other Thoughts:

There is one motto to remember when playing at Logan: "You're one bad roll away from losing a disc." I have played Logan four different times, and I have lost a disc three of those times. This course is incredibly difficult, largely due to natural factors. Even the best of disc golfers will find themselves with a couple double bogeys at Logan.
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DISCenchanted
Experience: 2 played 2 reviews
3.00 star(s)

Doesn't live up to the hype 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 20, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

-Beautiful location and scenery
-Good mix of holes and use of terrain
-Lots of different shots come into play here
-Water hazards(not typical for STL courses)

Cons:

-Absolutely TERRIBLE flow and course design
-Wooded holes seem highly redundant, every one seemed like a short dog-leg left/hyzer putter ace run
-Natural pads

Other Thoughts:

I heard nothing but praise for this course when it opened. "Championship caliber", "must play" and what not. So I was stoked when I got a chance to finally play it. That excitement quickly turned to disappointment and frustration. You are going to get lost on this course without guidance. I didn't even find 5 or 6 of the holes. I gave up and left after playing a mish mash of random holes I was able to locate. Prototypical Dave Mac design.

That said, some of the holes are great and this is a challenging course. But I quickly got bored when the wooded holes turned into blatent repetitiveness. Throwing from the blue tees would have alleviated some of this. I lost count of the <200ft left-hand doglegs from the red tees.

This course has GOBS of potential, but the layout is absolutely terrible.
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Three Putt
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Diamond level trusted reviewer
Premium Member
Experience: 29.3 years 152 played 127 reviews
3.50 star(s)

I've been wandering early and late/From the New York City to the Golden Gate/And it don't look like I'll ever stop my wandering 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Apr 26, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

Logan University is a private chiropractic college in West St. Louis County. West County has so far avoided the disc golf trend (other than the 9-holers in Manchester and Ellisville) so the location is prime for a top-quality course. Fortunately, this course delivers. This isn't a terribly long course, but a lot of the distance shoots uphill and it feels longer than it is. The elevation changes here combined with the wooded nature of the course creates a lot of variety in the shots; I had to throw some rollers and try a few trick shots to try to get by here. A few of the holes (#1,#3, #17) are long and open enough to let you air it out. #9 and #18 do as well, but there is a stand of trees that you have to negotiate that take away the bomb's away effect. On #17 you have to put on your big boy pants because it is a long water carry (I took the safe route) and #3 has some tricky water as well (there is a blind pond up on the right by the pin.) Most of the rest of the course is wooded. There are some really short touch shot/Ace runs (#2, #8, #10) and mostly technical holes. Hole #16 is a great hole; it's a downhill tunnel shot with an OB fence to the right leading to a blind pin with a creek in front and a pond to the left. There is some water on the course, but all of the holes gave you a safe route to avoid the water other than #8, and #8 is an Ace run. There are good tee signs and multiple tees/pins. The course was very challenging to me, but enough of the shots are technical wooded holes that it was not boring like a lot of the courses that primarily get their challenge from length. It's does a good job of balancing challenge with a high "fun factor" and should be attractive to a wide variety of players.

Cons:

The flow here is atrocious. The holes are set up to bring you back to the parking lot between #9-#10, but to do that you create a ghastly combination of long golfless walks, walking past tees for other holes to get to your hole, crossing the same street four times for no good reason, a dicey creek crossing to get from #12-#13 and a cluster of #17's basket and people walking from #8-#9. Because of the wandering back in forth, there are several places where you can get lost. However, there is a solution to the horrendous flow. Start on hole #10 and play #10/#11; walk across the street and play #12; cut over and play #4/#5/#6/#7/#8, walk around the green for #17 to get to #13 (which eliminates the dicey creek crossing) and play #13/#14/#15/#16/#17; cross the street and play #9; then play #1/#2/#3/#18 to end the round. If you use the 10/11/12/4/5/6/7/8/13/14/15/16/17/9/1/2/3/18 rotation the flow isn't half bad; #8 to #13 isn't a great transition but the rest of it plays OK. This does not get you back to the parking lot between holes #9-#10, but it eliminates a lot of the staggering around the course like a sailor on shore leave.

The routes on some of the holes (#4, #9 & #18 come to mind) are not really defined for somebody that can't bomb.

Hole #16 is a fabulous hole, but the White tee runs against a property line fence. Considering how many disc golfers would jump a fence and trespass in a heartbeat to get a disc back, it doesn't seem like a great idea to be throwing over there. The Blue fairway is a bit better.

As mentioned before, the creek crossing from #12 to #13 is dicey. You either make a muddy slog through a creek or cross over a downed tree that was too narrow and up too high for my old legs to feel steady on.

Hole #9 and the safe route for hole #18 use the same fairway. The shots go the same direction so the design should be safe if people will wait, but it can create a backup.

When you finish #18 and start walking up the hill, you are in #1's fairway blind from the tee. If it's going to be that way there should be a warning sign directing you to stay out of #1's fairway (or there should be a big bell for you to ring so the guys on #1 know you are there :p)

Other Thoughts:

Hole #3 was closed due to a nesting goose. That was a new one for me.

The tees are natural. I don't list this as a con, but concrete would be better. The course is very pretty and the grounds are very well maintained otherwise.

Edit: This review is very old and refers to a course layout that has been significantly altered, but the rating would be the same as it's still a good course. Until I get a chance to re-write this review I will mention that I do not recommend Logan for solo rounds; I lose a lot of discs here playing solo and waste a lot of time looking for discs. Extra eyes to spot on several of these holes is the difference between a fun time and a frustrating round for me.
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thrillthrower
Experience: 10.6 years 53 played 6 reviews
4.00 star(s)

picturesque 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 28, 2013 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Lots of elevation changes on almost every hole- not crowded, challenging, but tight realistic wood holes-
The risk/reward element on many holes brings an element of excitement and surprise every time you play.



Cons:

Natural tee pads look right for this setting, but a little slick when wet ; traversing from hole 8 to 9 is not the best dry and definitely treacherous when wet. -(ok I fell down the hill.) Basket locations not changed on any interval I can tell and I am there a lot (work close by) - all of my cons are minor/ easily fixable

Other Thoughts:

Disclaimer: have been playing just since Oct , although nearly 3-4 times a week - "newbie disc fever" Course has become my favorite . Have played enough courses in St. Louis to compare and rate it as a solid 4
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allenhoop
Experience: 14 years 243 played 11 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Unique and fun STL course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jul 27, 2019 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

--Great use of elevation
--Tight but well defined fairways with challenging lines
--Good mix of field/woods
--Water comes into play making several approaches very difficult
--Great dug out natural tees
--Proper signage/Easy to navigate
--Most basket areas are mulched
--Course requires a good mix of technical, placement, and distance disc golf -- you might just throw every disc in your bag/every type of throw in your arsenal
--Gateway Titans

Cons:

--Some fairly long walks between holes and at the end
--Brush is pretty thick in some areas



Other Thoughts:

You won't find many courses like this in St. Louis. The use of elevation is unmatched in the area. Adding more pin locations (longer/more varied) to use specifically for pro tournaments could make this a championship caliber course.

Lots of water is in play on this course, so make sure to bring some discs you don't mind losing. A bad kick on your drive could send you into a pond pretty easily.

If you play disc golf in St. Louis, play this course immediately. You will not regret it.

Definitely a signature Dave McCormack course that will only get better with age.

Update:
Course has been redesigned. Turf teepads are in and signage is updated and high quality.

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discdanny
Experience: 10.9 years 37 played 17 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Logan University- Championship Cal. 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 14, 2013 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

So many pros..where to begin? Logan University's campus spans over 60 acres of rolling hills and dense woods with 2 beautiful lakes. One of these lakes features a large fountain for an added aesthetic appeal.

-This course truly requires every shot that you have in your bag.

- Left/Right & Right/Left
-Big Arm Bombs
-Extreme control
-Steep elevation shots
-Rollers, Etc...

---Getting off of the fairway here at all is likely to cost you a handful of strokes on your day due to the density of the woods on the tighter holes.
--Water OB is also a huge factor on holes: 3,8,16 & 17
-Large Metal Tee Signs
-Loops after 9
-Gateway Titan Baskets
-Beautiful Land- Extremely well manicured
-Chiropractic School very close if you throw your back out during your round. hah

Cons:

Not too many..

-Trash Cans
-No Concrete tee pads (yet).. Though i prefer natural pads.
-This is a college campus..so alcohol is not permitted

Other Thoughts:

This course is stellar.. I love it.. Should be rated even higher, wishlisted and favorited by more!!!

A HUGE thank you to Dave Mac and the guys at Gateway Disc Sports for this one!! Awesome Job
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birdman101
Experience: 14.8 years 59 played 24 reviews
4.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Oct 12, 2013 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

This is a championship caliber course. no doubt about it. It sits on the beautiful campus of Logan College and plays in and out of the woods with ponds and creeks coming into play.

the water hazards and the elevation changes which are 2 things that aren't found to this extent in the St Louis area really make the course.

Has a variety of shots both left to right and right to left and several holes where you get to choose.

The ponds come into play on 4 holes (3, 8, 16, 17)

The tight lines in the woods require accuracy, and most of the wide open holes require a fairly decent placement to give you a decent shot at the basket.

Front and back 9 do loop to the parking lot, but comes at a slight cost (more in the cons)

There are 2 sets of tees and from what I understand 2 pin placements on each hole (unsure of who has keys, or the authority to move baskets though)

Nice big metal tee signs just got installed, although there is no method of marking which pin is currently in play and a few of them dont seem to match up 100% to the hole, but they are still way better than nothing.

Cons:

This course is new and still in the works (not sure if its immediately in the works or a trial run see how it goes situation)

natural pads are in decent shape right now but over time could become rough. Currently no tee signs and most holes don't even have distance info. The posts are in, so that helps find the tees, but most of them are by the whites, but a couple are by the blues.

The flow of the course is kind of silly. Part of this seems to be they wanted the course to loop to the parking lot after 9. After hole 8 you have to walk by 17's alternate placement, 13 tee, and essentially down 4 and 12s fairways to get to 9. Same issue after 17 you walk past 13 tee, and up 4 and 12s fairway.
Other than that the navigation isn't too bad but you WILL STILL WANT A MAP OR A GUIDE.

Other issue is that hole 1 plays along side part of 18's fairway and 18's basket is right there which could get confusing.
As well as the fact that the first half of 9 and 18's fairways are essentially the same fair way.

Other Thoughts:

This course is supposedly still under construction, so the lack of trash cans and other little things may get ironed out in the near future we will have to wait and see. I WILL UPDATE THIS AS I KNOW OR SEE THINGS CHANGING.

Also this is on a college campus so be respectful pick up your trash and avoid causing a big scene. Rumor is that it may go pay to play or buy a membership and people taking advantage my make that happen faster.
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ustenido
Experience: 10.9 years 29 played 11 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Wonderful course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 5, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

EXCELLENT USE of water and elevation. EXCELLENT mixture of wooded and open space (see hole 4). Strategically placed pins (watch out for water!). Two tee boxes, blue and white, which are correctly designed and par'd for intermediate and advanced amateur players - a rare find in courses today, thank you Mr. McCormack for doing this correctly!. The groundskeepers are superfriendly and excited to see disc golfers.

Cons:

Trash cans are lacking - this could lead to future green fees or course closure.
Needs tee signs - though I imagine these will come.
Needs a kiosk with a course map.
Hole 1 can be a bit confusing, the basket is located at the far end of the field under the canopy. The confusion derrives from hole 18's basket being in site and looking like where 1 should be. So I'd like to see these two fairways separated by trees.
No concrete tee boxes for white or blue - I actually prefer natural settings, but many won't. It would be better if the teeing areas were level, but there are some instances where they are not (hole 3 blue is on a rolling hill).

Other Thoughts:

I hope this course doesn't get bypassed for STL Open because of the teepads. It's better than Endicott
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Dantastic
Experience: 12.9 years 27 played 5 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Great potential! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Oct 4, 2013 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Logan College has a beautiful campus with mature woods, ponds with nice fountains (that come into play), and trash cans and benches through out the course. There are many pros about this new course to St. Louis
- great use of elevation.
- variety
- Detailed signs
- well maintained
-tight lines
-water hazards
-long bombs
- two possible pin locations and tee markers.
-nice new gateway baskets with 3 sets of chains
- mulch around a lot of the baskets.
- possible Ace runs.

Cons:

-no tee pad(yet)
- navigation is quite confusing without signs telling you where to go next.
- some of the holes use the same fairway and cross over.
- 9 is far away from 8 and hard to find your first time through. Basically you go back to the road and over the cross walk and it's Fairway is side by side. This was done to loop back to the parking lot after 9. (Kind of annoying).

Other Thoughts:

This course has potential to be one of the top rated courses in the st. Louis area. It is only a couple months old so a lot of the cons I listed will most likely be fixed. Also as the other two reviewers noted this course MAY be a pay to play course in the future. As of now it is not. So be nice and respectful! Have fun!

One of my favorite things about this course is that it plays like an old worn in course. The fairways are expertly cut out and look superb.
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Golden Tuna
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 23.2 years 185 played 31 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Championship Caliber 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Sep 21, 2013 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

[UPDATE & Re-Design]
Beautiful grounds, well maintained, multiple tee pads, multiple pin placements, elevation changes, tight and technical, championship caliber, water holes, lots of risk/reward

This course is bound to be one of the top courses in St. Louis once it gets concrete tee pads, tee signs, and has some time to mature. It is situated on the campus of Logan University - College of Chiropractic which means they have a full-time, year-round grounds crew that maintains the course/property. The course boasts both white and blue tee pads which offer a great challenge due to the technical nature of most holes.
For those who are familiar with St. Louis courses, Logan is similar to many of tight technical shots from Endicott with the added challenge of water on a number of holes. There are a handful of open holes, but you still need to throw smart shots to score well. Make your birdies on the Par 3's as many of the longer holes can be unforgiving. There are also a number of long (400'+) holes that require a putter or mid off the tee in order to secure a reasonable landing zone.
There is a great use of elevation throughout the course. Smart golf wins the round out here as this was designed to make you "play golf". The rough can still be pretty rough, so staying in the fairways is recommended. Water comes into play on holes 1,8,9,10, 11, & 16 which forces a smart shot. Holes 10 & 11 are only a small creek, but still a hazard.

Cons:

[UPDATE]
Most of the previous cons have been addressed in the course update. There are still natural tee pads, which aren't my favorite, but I assume those will be replaced by a more permanent solution in the near future as the course has been a success since installation. The main thing the course lacks is water and restroom amenities.

Though there are only natural tee pads out here now, they aren't that bad as most of them are relatively flat and debris free. You will encounter some difficult footing on fairway shots, but that is mostly due to the terrain and elevation, not the design or maintenance of the holes.

This is a college campus, so there are bathrooms and water fountains to be found. That said I don't think campus personnel wants disc golfers traipsing around their campus and tracking mud into their buildings. Please tread very lightly in this regard because they are the ones that could choose to make this course pay to play or private for students only.

Lastly, and this isn't as much of a "con" as it is a warning, the front 9 doesn't loop back to the parking lot. So, bring what you need for a full 18 when you set out for hole 1.

Other Thoughts:

This course is an awesome challenge and a great work out for the mind and body. My caution to everyone is to be respectful and smart at this course since it is on private property and we don't want a few bad apples to spoil this great course for the rest of us. The trash cans are few and far between, so if you pack it in, please pack it out. Also since there aren't really any facilities, be sure to bring your own water, soda, whatever. Though it is a college campus, I assume alcohol is frowned upon, so be very discrete, don't leave any bottles/cans on campus or just wait till you're done playing. And, finally, have fun. The re-designed course is now in my Top 5 favorite courses because of the scenic views, low traffic, and mental toughness needed to play well out here. It is a great challenge, and an even greater reward when you play well!

Traveler's Note: Turning left out of the campus will bring you right back to Highway 64/40. If you turn right on Schoettler, then left on Clayton, you have everything you need in regards to food, fuel, shopping, etc.
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TheGoldenPutter
Experience: 15.1 years 52 played 9 reviews
4.50 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Sep 23, 2013 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

+Well well well, looks like I get to be the first to review another fantastic new DGC in STL. This may become the best course in town, so that means its good. A very high level course.

+Beautiful campus with large hills and ELEVATION changes, 3 ponds, nicely maintained grounds with mature woods.

+Every type of shot is needed here; course really has some cool and challenging lines, some of which certainly brought me out of my comfort zone.

+The times I've played, I play it as a par 61 (which most likely isn't going to be the actual par, probably higher). Anyway there's a good amount of par three shots that are more technical. Then the par 4's are the kind where it really pays off to have a good drive; but even then, you're not going to have an easy second shot. An example is hole 3, which is a sort of tunnel shot with the pond lurking behind. The tunnel is about 300ish long, and then the fairway takes a right 90degree turn where the pin is tucked 50 in. So holes like that, pretty cool.

+The 3 ponds actually come into play.
#3 has one pond on the left side taking any overthrown RHBH shots of the tee. Then behind the pin there's a smaller pond taking any overthrown approach shots.
#8 Pond about 20-30ft behind pin.
#16 Pond and creek protecting the green.
#17 Pond on the right side of fairway. Tempting shot to try to carry over it, probably about 400ft on a straight line.

+Signature holes. You're gonna leave Logan with a memory of a lot of holes that really stood out.
+This course really punishes bad shots.
+Two sets of pads. Some awesome different locations.
+Two pin positions, most of which really change the hole
+Very challenging. First time shooting there par is a great score.
+I'll say it again, Elevation.
+Oh ya, almost forgot, Elevation, ponds, beautiful scenery, challenging holes.
+Gateway Titans
+AS OF 10/23/13 Tee signs are in! Very nice signs.

Cons:

-Natural tee pads. Concrete ones should be installed in the future.

- I think the one thing that will keep this course back is the flow. The walk between 8-9 and then 17-18 is a long one. The course was designed to make two 9 hole loops to the parking lot. While this is nice and some people really like this quality, I don't think it was worth it to cut up the flow as much as it does. This design element forces you to walk through at least one fairway to get to the next hole. I'm not one to complain and be upset about this if it were necessary. But that's thing, in my opinion, its not necessary. I play the course 1,2,3,9,10,11,12,4,5,6,7,8,13,14,15,16,17,18 if that helps you out.(probably didn't). I feel this hole sequence is much easier to follow and requires a lot less walking. Without a map or directions, you will most likely get lost.

- #9 and #18 basically share the same fairway.....

Other Thoughts:

> So overall a fantastic course, a must play if in STL
> Very high level, challenging, punishes bad shots, lots of variety, elevation, water hazards, beautiful grounds, signature holes.
> Will be confusing, it'll help if you take a map. Flow is bad in those two spots that I ranted about.
> Is free to play at the moment.
> Will update this review

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