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Muddy Run DGC reviews
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It's as good as advertised, and a long walk
Reviewed:
Updated:
Played on:May 22, 2022
Played the course:2-4 times
Pros:
Every hole seems like it's set in it's own little world, even though you can see other holes nearby
Logs have been flattened into benches on pretty much any hole, and you'll need them!
It's not a brutal, torture track, but it also doesn't give up shots easily
So many fun downhill throws! Even the sharply uphill holes are fun.
Odds of losing a disc are very low. There are a couple of places where you might lose sight of the disc going over a hill, but the woods are entirely rocks and grass so you should eventually find the thing even if it's way off line.
The odds of you getting lost are low. Sure it's a big course, but it's easy to see where to go.
Logs have been flattened into benches on pretty much any hole, and you'll need them!
It's not a brutal, torture track, but it also doesn't give up shots easily
So many fun downhill throws! Even the sharply uphill holes are fun.
Odds of losing a disc are very low. There are a couple of places where you might lose sight of the disc going over a hill, but the woods are entirely rocks and grass so you should eventually find the thing even if it's way off line.
The odds of you getting lost are low. Sure it's a big course, but it's easy to see where to go.
Cons:
The rocks! Some of the holes in the woods are on a steep hillside that is mostly rocks. Some are loose and really you shouldn't step on any of them if you can help it.
The course has a Gold tee and a Silver Tee (shorter) but if you are playing the Silver tee, you have to walk by the Gold tee anyway. There are a couple of holes where the Silver tee gives you a somewhat different look at the basket, but there's really no reason to not play the Gold tees. You're going to score about the same over/under par anyway.
When they say the grass is long in May, they mean it's thigh high and you're going to not see your disc in it unless you're within a few feet. Holes 16 and 18 are deeply satisfying long downhill tee shots, but in May you're throwing it into this thigh-high grass. You must get a good line on where your disc lands. 17 is perhaps the best uphill hole I've ever played, and you are in the same grassy field, but for whatever reason it was easier to find the disc
It's nice to have 2 tee pads, but they could really use two baskets too. They have plenty of room, and they could create 2 more layouts, one even shorter than the current Silver card, and one longer Gold card. They could position the baskets to cut down on some of the walks if you're playing the Silver tees to the short baskets.
The stretch from 6-9 isn't as exciting as the rest of the course, but they aren't exactly bad holes. They're good parkland style holes. 8 would be the best hole on pretty much any typical park style course in the area.
The course has a Gold tee and a Silver Tee (shorter) but if you are playing the Silver tee, you have to walk by the Gold tee anyway. There are a couple of holes where the Silver tee gives you a somewhat different look at the basket, but there's really no reason to not play the Gold tees. You're going to score about the same over/under par anyway.
When they say the grass is long in May, they mean it's thigh high and you're going to not see your disc in it unless you're within a few feet. Holes 16 and 18 are deeply satisfying long downhill tee shots, but in May you're throwing it into this thigh-high grass. You must get a good line on where your disc lands. 17 is perhaps the best uphill hole I've ever played, and you are in the same grassy field, but for whatever reason it was easier to find the disc
It's nice to have 2 tee pads, but they could really use two baskets too. They have plenty of room, and they could create 2 more layouts, one even shorter than the current Silver card, and one longer Gold card. They could position the baskets to cut down on some of the walks if you're playing the Silver tees to the short baskets.
The stretch from 6-9 isn't as exciting as the rest of the course, but they aren't exactly bad holes. They're good parkland style holes. 8 would be the best hole on pretty much any typical park style course in the area.
Other Thoughts:
It's like a fantasy world for disc golf. You're in a park, but there are no pedestrians to avoid, unless for whatever reason they're wandering through the woods. The holes the woods have some pretty tight lines, but you can miss your line by miles and still find your disc. Oh, you won't have much of a shot, but you can at least find it and advance it.
Usually uphill holes are painful and boring slogs, but this place has found a way to make them exciting. 1, 3, 15 and 17 are all sharply uphill, yet strategic and fascinating too. And to reward you for your trouble, there are some fantastic downhill throws too. 16 and 18 are incredibly satisfying, as is the long approach shot down the rocky hillside on 14.
I'd probably avoid going here when it's really hot or in May. This place is no doubt a total blast on a nice calm 60 degree day in October.
If you're familiar with South Hills and Lenni Lenape in Lebanon, Muddy Run would be like the 9 best holes at each course combined into one, and then all of them stretched out 200 feet farther, with much wider playing corridors.
The fact this is a free course to play is almost hard to believe but here it is!
I debated between 4.5 and 5 discs because while there are 2 tees, Gold and Silver, the Silver layout just isn't as good as the Gold. If you can throw the disc 250 feet and relatively straight, the Gold course isn't going to be too hard for you and is way more fun. It is possible to par every hole and you'll have a few decent birdie looks. The Silver layout reduces the distances some, and lowers the par accordingly, but you still are walking the Gold layout and missing out on some really fun gold tee shots. For example, 16 and 18 gold tees both play from the top of a hill, and the silver tees don't. . Also, if you play Silver 14, which is a still a fun par 4, you are missing out on one of the great par 5s in disc golf.
The Gold layout is clearly 5 stars. The Silver is more of a 4.0. If they added another set of baskets to each hole and found a way to cut down a little on the long walks if you're playing a shorter layout, this would definitely be a Best of the Best course. Several other reviewers have said this is a 4.75 course, and I'd agree with that but I'm still giving it 5 discs. From the back tees it's a brilliant, thoughtful and fun course that is not overwhelming to the average recreational player.. Just because the forward tees are a bit weak doesn't mean I should downgrade the rating.
It's a wonderful place, worth the drive to the relatively remote location.
Usually uphill holes are painful and boring slogs, but this place has found a way to make them exciting. 1, 3, 15 and 17 are all sharply uphill, yet strategic and fascinating too. And to reward you for your trouble, there are some fantastic downhill throws too. 16 and 18 are incredibly satisfying, as is the long approach shot down the rocky hillside on 14.
I'd probably avoid going here when it's really hot or in May. This place is no doubt a total blast on a nice calm 60 degree day in October.
If you're familiar with South Hills and Lenni Lenape in Lebanon, Muddy Run would be like the 9 best holes at each course combined into one, and then all of them stretched out 200 feet farther, with much wider playing corridors.
The fact this is a free course to play is almost hard to believe but here it is!
I debated between 4.5 and 5 discs because while there are 2 tees, Gold and Silver, the Silver layout just isn't as good as the Gold. If you can throw the disc 250 feet and relatively straight, the Gold course isn't going to be too hard for you and is way more fun. It is possible to par every hole and you'll have a few decent birdie looks. The Silver layout reduces the distances some, and lowers the par accordingly, but you still are walking the Gold layout and missing out on some really fun gold tee shots. For example, 16 and 18 gold tees both play from the top of a hill, and the silver tees don't. . Also, if you play Silver 14, which is a still a fun par 4, you are missing out on one of the great par 5s in disc golf.
The Gold layout is clearly 5 stars. The Silver is more of a 4.0. If they added another set of baskets to each hole and found a way to cut down a little on the long walks if you're playing a shorter layout, this would definitely be a Best of the Best course. Several other reviewers have said this is a 4.75 course, and I'd agree with that but I'm still giving it 5 discs. From the back tees it's a brilliant, thoughtful and fun course that is not overwhelming to the average recreational player.. Just because the forward tees are a bit weak doesn't mean I should downgrade the rating.
It's a wonderful place, worth the drive to the relatively remote location.
23
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Tremendous Design 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Aug 7, 2021
Played the course:once
Pros:
+Incredible use of the land. Huge elevation changes factor heavily into the course, including through the woods, which is one of my favorite elements of a top DG course. Very challenging.
+Beautiful scenery - rolling hills, towering trees, well-kept meadows, some grassy fairways in the woods...really well done.
+Two tee pads per hole with very informative signs (distance, elevation change, and interesting facts about local birds). Baskets are top-notch too.
+Lots of interesting greens and basket placements make for challenging upshots and putts.
+Great combination of technical lines, open bomber holes, and Narnia-style throwing down a hill in the woods.
+A few real signature holes here. Holes 2, 6, and 16 are all a joy to throw. My personal favorites, though, were 10 (Narnia-like grassy fairway down a wooded tunnel to a precarious green), 14 (par 5 that wraps left over a ridge and then a huge downhill wooded shot), and 18 (another big wooded downhill shot that doglegs right into the open field to a pedestal basket). Honorable mention for 12 as well.
+Co-located with a larger park that includes a splash park and lots of picnic locations.
+Free to play. This and Iron Hill are easily the best free courses I have played to date.
+Beautiful scenery - rolling hills, towering trees, well-kept meadows, some grassy fairways in the woods...really well done.
+Two tee pads per hole with very informative signs (distance, elevation change, and interesting facts about local birds). Baskets are top-notch too.
+Lots of interesting greens and basket placements make for challenging upshots and putts.
+Great combination of technical lines, open bomber holes, and Narnia-style throwing down a hill in the woods.
+A few real signature holes here. Holes 2, 6, and 16 are all a joy to throw. My personal favorites, though, were 10 (Narnia-like grassy fairway down a wooded tunnel to a precarious green), 14 (par 5 that wraps left over a ridge and then a huge downhill wooded shot), and 18 (another big wooded downhill shot that doglegs right into the open field to a pedestal basket). Honorable mention for 12 as well.
+Co-located with a larger park that includes a splash park and lots of picnic locations.
+Free to play. This and Iron Hill are easily the best free courses I have played to date.
Cons:
-One basket per hole reduces variability of the layouts, but the two options (whites or golds) to the single basket are both REALLY good. Probably would only matter if you were a local playing this course more than once a week...but I wouldn't complain with this as my home course!
-I'm not generally a fan of making a big uphill shot your hole 1. Not a bad hole, you just want to get the chance to rip something and see it sail far after getting out of the car.
-I'm not generally a fan of making a big uphill shot your hole 1. Not a bad hole, you just want to get the chance to rip something and see it sail far after getting out of the car.
Other Thoughts:
Neither con is worth demoting from 5/5. This is definitely a destination course, and was obviously a worthy host of 2019 Am Worlds. Absolutely worth the drive.
Bring water and good hiking shoes - I love hilly courses, but this was a workout, even for a glutton-for-punishment like me.
Not necessarily "beginner-friendly"...but it's not so punishing (no water hazards) as to be "beginner-discouraging".
Bring water and good hiking shoes - I love hilly courses, but this was a workout, even for a glutton-for-punishment like me.
Not necessarily "beginner-friendly"...but it's not so punishing (no water hazards) as to be "beginner-discouraging".
16
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Par_Daddy
Experience:
4 played
4 reviews
A worthy destination course 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Mar 5, 2021
Played the course:5+ times
Pros:
- This course routinely ranks in the top 50 courses in the world and it's free to play!
- No lack of parking, there are bathrooms on the premise just not directly on the disc golf course
- Multi-use park improves the experience not detracts from it, seldom do you encounter non-players on the course yet you still get to benefit from the park's amenities (campground, lake for boating/fishing, snack bar, splash pad for kids, nature center, multiple playgrounds and picnic areas)
- The large deer population in the park nearly ensures that you will see some every time you play which is pretty cool and unique
- Course is well maintained and beautiful especially in the fall
- 2 tee positions on every hole help modulate the difficulty level you are looking for
- Concrete pads that are flush with the ground allow for plentiful run up and follow through space (this is a personal favorite feature of mine at any course)
- Tee signs are accurate and include fun bird fact which is a cool bonus
- Elevation changes, technical wooded shots, open field bombs, risk reward options, this course has everything you could ask for
- No lack of parking, there are bathrooms on the premise just not directly on the disc golf course
- Multi-use park improves the experience not detracts from it, seldom do you encounter non-players on the course yet you still get to benefit from the park's amenities (campground, lake for boating/fishing, snack bar, splash pad for kids, nature center, multiple playgrounds and picnic areas)
- The large deer population in the park nearly ensures that you will see some every time you play which is pretty cool and unique
- Course is well maintained and beautiful especially in the fall
- 2 tee positions on every hole help modulate the difficulty level you are looking for
- Concrete pads that are flush with the ground allow for plentiful run up and follow through space (this is a personal favorite feature of mine at any course)
- Tee signs are accurate and include fun bird fact which is a cool bonus
- Elevation changes, technical wooded shots, open field bombs, risk reward options, this course has everything you could ask for
Cons:
- Playing this course is a workout, lots of elevation change leads to up and down hikes. There are some days where I do not have the energy to invest into playing 'Muddy' and would rather play a shorter flatter course like D.F. Buchmiller which is 20-25 min away.
- Muddy Run has a strict gate gate closure policy in the evenings which can lead to ending rounds early or rushing to finish so that you don't inconvenience the gate attendants
- The grass on hole 16 can get very long in the summer making it difficult to find your disc
- The tee signs are accurate distance-wise but the picture is just an aerial photograph with a white line depicting the fairway which isn't the most helpful especially on wooded holes
- Hole 3 is a brutal uphill double dogleg par 5 from gold (single dogleg par 4 from silver). The steep wooded rocky slope makes finding footing very difficult. This hole is almost always an automatic bogey for me.
- Muddy Run is pretty remote from any population center so getting here is a long drive for most people
- Muddy Run has a strict gate gate closure policy in the evenings which can lead to ending rounds early or rushing to finish so that you don't inconvenience the gate attendants
- The grass on hole 16 can get very long in the summer making it difficult to find your disc
- The tee signs are accurate distance-wise but the picture is just an aerial photograph with a white line depicting the fairway which isn't the most helpful especially on wooded holes
- Hole 3 is a brutal uphill double dogleg par 5 from gold (single dogleg par 4 from silver). The steep wooded rocky slope makes finding footing very difficult. This hole is almost always an automatic bogey for me.
- Muddy Run is pretty remote from any population center so getting here is a long drive for most people
Other Thoughts:
Muddy Run DGC is worth the trip from anywhere, a true destination course and it even is equipped with a campground. I think this course is deserving of an A-Tier tournament or even higher. A favorite hole of mine is the par 4 hole #8. Play the wind and the skippy green correctly and you have a good look at birdie. But if you get careless off the tee you could be pinched off against the left side woods that are full of long grass, thorns, and stinging nettle. Muddy Run is a great course and is worthy of a high ranking. Come see why!
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blakem0714
Experience:
8 years
17 played
2 reviews
So Much Fun!! 2+ years
Reviewed:
Played on:Jul 26, 2019
Played the course:once
Pros:
this course will test everything you have from distance to short game, from wooded holes to open holes, from falt holes to large hills.
Cons:
not the most cart friendly but you can definetly use a cart as long as you are careful around some of teh larger hills.
Other Thoughts:
phenominal course quickly became one of my favorites i cant wait until i am in P.A. again so i can make the stop and play again.
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branlong
Experience:
1 played
1 reviews
Awesome course 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Oct 19, 2019
Played the course:once
Pros:
Great variety. Option to use silver or gold tees. Usually will see deer. (I saw 8+). A little more than half the holes are in the woods, but nothing is thick or at risk of really losing a disc.
Cons:
Too far from my house 
14
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Tremendous in Every Way 2+ years
Reviewed:
Played on:Jul 29, 2019
Played the course:once
Pros:
Championship-caliber course featured at the Muddy Run Recreational Area, an absolutely beautiful park featuring a lake, boating, a splash park and foot golf among other activities. 18 DGA baskets in great condition. Excellent use of elevation, a balance of both wooded and open holes & shorter and longer ones requiring one's full arsenal of shots. Fair routes to each basket. Navigation is relatively easy and intuitive. The signs are among the nicest signs I've ever seen at a DG course; 20" x 24" fiberglass placards with not only par, hole number, distance and flight path but a picture and information on a different area bird. A number of truly outstanding holes here- 2, 16, 17, 18 come to mind- any one of which could stand alone as a signature hole at most courses. Downhill hole 16 over a wide swath of tall grass and finishing hole 18 in a downhill shot through the woods and dog leg right to an elevated basket will be loved by players. Log benches, ample parking, snack bar, bathrooms and other amenities on the premises
Cons:
I must nitpick to find any. I did not see a practice basket. Despite the presence of a large lake, there is no water hazard on the course. Grueling terrain.
Other Thoughts:
I am not overstating in saying I believe this might be the best PA course east of Pittsburgh- which is really saying something given the existence of such places like Nockamixon, Quakers Challenge and Tyler State Park. It is a truly outstanding venue which will test you physically and mentally. And it's located on an immaculately groomed, beautiful piece of property. Rightly featured at the recent AM Worlds, Muddy Run is a marvel in design and concept. The work that went into this place and the routine maintenance required for its upkeep are considerable. Kudos to the guys that designed this magnificent course. A must play for anyone who loves the sport.
10
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listentomorejazz
Experience:
13.9 years
55 played
11 reviews
Excellent Course 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Updated:
Played on:Nov 24, 2020
Played the course:5+ times
Pros:
- I am excited to come back and update this review, having played both layouts yesterday- the golds and silvers. Phenomenal course!
- Large, grippy concrete teepads
- Signage is beyond reproach, with terrific detail and fun bird facts
- Great variety between elevation, woods vs open, shot length and types of fairways
- True par 4s and 5s, with the par 3s mostly a challenge
- Largely disc golf only, haven't had to wait for pedestrians except for one strange encounter...
- Baskets are in great shape (course is still new)
- Benches on most holes
- Usually a very well groomed course, but see the cons
- Large, grippy concrete teepads
- Signage is beyond reproach, with terrific detail and fun bird facts
- Great variety between elevation, woods vs open, shot length and types of fairways
- True par 4s and 5s, with the par 3s mostly a challenge
- Largely disc golf only, haven't had to wait for pedestrians except for one strange encounter...
- Baskets are in great shape (course is still new)
- Benches on most holes
- Usually a very well groomed course, but see the cons
Cons:
One really has to reach for cons here.
- Single Basket Positions
-Course maintenance can be difficult, with extremely high grass at times
- It sounds ridiculous from a guy who's shot in the 70s two of the three times he's played it, but I feel like parts of this course are too easy, especially for open players. Top level pros would put up some highlight clips here, but that may not be a con for most
- one 18 hole loop, I prefer to be able to stop between nines, but again, I'm reaching for cons here
- Single Basket Positions
-Course maintenance can be difficult, with extremely high grass at times
- It sounds ridiculous from a guy who's shot in the 70s two of the three times he's played it, but I feel like parts of this course are too easy, especially for open players. Top level pros would put up some highlight clips here, but that may not be a con for most
- one 18 hole loop, I prefer to be able to stop between nines, but again, I'm reaching for cons here
Other Thoughts:
I left my previous thoughts below because I thought they are still applicable. However, with the incredible amount of maintenance and the two full layouts which change the looks to each basket, I would say this course it closer to a 5 than a 4.5 at this point. 4.83 or something.
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I really, really want to rate this course a 5, but can't bring myself to do it and I'm not fully sure why. It's at least a 4.75, but the lack of water/risk reward OB, a few filler holes (7, 9, 13, 15) and lack of iconic view shed hold me back, along with the fact there aren't 2+ full layouts. 2 and 16 have great top of the world shots, but they look at parking lot or a chain link fence and residential houses.
It cannot be stated enough how much work is going into this course. They have built rock walls on 12 that are quite beautiful, they listened to the previous reviews and improved some landing zones (a definite con on my first time or two out) and there are more benches every time I play.
Absolutely worth making a 2+ hour drive for (and I'm only 45 minutes!)
This course is a physical slog. It does not make a trip back at nine as mentioned above so make sure to take a lot of fluids.
The wind can be absolutely brutal here, like not fun to play in when 10 miles away would be reasonable.
There is also potential for a lost disc in a number of places. Not a con, but definitely worth noting.
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I really, really want to rate this course a 5, but can't bring myself to do it and I'm not fully sure why. It's at least a 4.75, but the lack of water/risk reward OB, a few filler holes (7, 9, 13, 15) and lack of iconic view shed hold me back, along with the fact there aren't 2+ full layouts. 2 and 16 have great top of the world shots, but they look at parking lot or a chain link fence and residential houses.
It cannot be stated enough how much work is going into this course. They have built rock walls on 12 that are quite beautiful, they listened to the previous reviews and improved some landing zones (a definite con on my first time or two out) and there are more benches every time I play.
Absolutely worth making a 2+ hour drive for (and I'm only 45 minutes!)
This course is a physical slog. It does not make a trip back at nine as mentioned above so make sure to take a lot of fluids.
The wind can be absolutely brutal here, like not fun to play in when 10 miles away would be reasonable.
There is also potential for a lost disc in a number of places. Not a con, but definitely worth noting.
7
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jrodkelly1
Experience:
30 played
7 reviews
Sanctuary for Birds and Disc Golfers 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Apr 21, 2018
Played the course:once
Pros:
Design- This course requires every shot in the bag off the tee, you will know it if your approach and putts are off that day because the course will show it.
The Par 4's on this course are top notch par 4's that are designed expertly.
Hole 10 is the greatest Par 4 I've ever played it was my favorite hole overall along with 16.
The course features two Par 5's both are very uniquely shaped for par 5's I'd say they are both true par 5's although they may play a little under par for the top pro.
Hole 14 is the coolest Par 5 you may find anywhere, throw a 220+ foot straight to hyzer finish up hill then throw your disc through a tight steep downhill fairway to shoot yourself down to the basket.
Elevation!- The variety here is top notch especially if you love elevation!
Tee Signs- Some of the best you may ever see, just the fact that they are so huge made them easy to spot and find the tee for the next hole. Love the bird facts too it gives the holes personality.
Navigation- Muddy run is very easy to navigate even without a map. The only holes that took me more that a minute to spot was 10 and 8.
Fairness- Very clean cut fairways even on the wooded holes, also there isnt much thick underbrush to be found. I finished the round pretty quicly parlty because I didnt have to look for any discs for long!
Difficulty- This course is a challenge for anyone but as an intermediate I still had a great time playing the gold tee's there were even birdie oppurtunites for my skill level. A well executed tee shot here still forces you to execute a great upshot and of course make your putt. That being said its not as difficult as say Maple Hill
Beauty- Beautiful piece of property for disc golf you cant ask for much more there is a great view on hole 6 looking towards the lake and 10 has a beautiful green in the woods.
Amenities- They had some nice natural benches on some holes, but the best part was the snack bar. I got excellent french toast sticks to start my round and I was able to eat lunch for cheap afterowords. You can even enjoy a day on the lake when you're there!
The Par 4's on this course are top notch par 4's that are designed expertly.
Hole 10 is the greatest Par 4 I've ever played it was my favorite hole overall along with 16.
The course features two Par 5's both are very uniquely shaped for par 5's I'd say they are both true par 5's although they may play a little under par for the top pro.
Hole 14 is the coolest Par 5 you may find anywhere, throw a 220+ foot straight to hyzer finish up hill then throw your disc through a tight steep downhill fairway to shoot yourself down to the basket.
Elevation!- The variety here is top notch especially if you love elevation!
Tee Signs- Some of the best you may ever see, just the fact that they are so huge made them easy to spot and find the tee for the next hole. Love the bird facts too it gives the holes personality.
Navigation- Muddy run is very easy to navigate even without a map. The only holes that took me more that a minute to spot was 10 and 8.
Fairness- Very clean cut fairways even on the wooded holes, also there isnt much thick underbrush to be found. I finished the round pretty quicly parlty because I didnt have to look for any discs for long!
Difficulty- This course is a challenge for anyone but as an intermediate I still had a great time playing the gold tee's there were even birdie oppurtunites for my skill level. A well executed tee shot here still forces you to execute a great upshot and of course make your putt. That being said its not as difficult as say Maple Hill
Beauty- Beautiful piece of property for disc golf you cant ask for much more there is a great view on hole 6 looking towards the lake and 10 has a beautiful green in the woods.
Amenities- They had some nice natural benches on some holes, but the best part was the snack bar. I got excellent french toast sticks to start my round and I was able to eat lunch for cheap afterowords. You can even enjoy a day on the lake when you're there!
Cons:
I don't have many cons to list but I will say a couple of things that I think the course designer can improve on. This course deserves to be a PDGA tour destination!
This is a negative and a postive for some, no water features on the course, but it is surrounded by a lake.
The Par 3's on this course are a little easy for a gold level course. Hole 9, comes to mind and the low ceiling short hole 13. I think if these holes made the player decide I'm going to lay up for par or go for it it would be better. Im an intermediate player and I went for birdie on every single par 3. My favorite par 3's to least favorite were 6, 18, 7, 5, 9, 13. I think this could be remedied if some of these holes were just a little bit longer or required a tighter line.
This is nit picky and doesn't necessarily need change because they didnt do it in the way that made it feel repetitive. But hole 14-17 is uphill downhill, uphill, downhill, uphill. Although they have an excellent design so it didnt retract from my rating of this course.
This is a negative and a postive for some, no water features on the course, but it is surrounded by a lake.
The Par 3's on this course are a little easy for a gold level course. Hole 9, comes to mind and the low ceiling short hole 13. I think if these holes made the player decide I'm going to lay up for par or go for it it would be better. Im an intermediate player and I went for birdie on every single par 3. My favorite par 3's to least favorite were 6, 18, 7, 5, 9, 13. I think this could be remedied if some of these holes were just a little bit longer or required a tighter line.
This is nit picky and doesn't necessarily need change because they didnt do it in the way that made it feel repetitive. But hole 14-17 is uphill downhill, uphill, downhill, uphill. Although they have an excellent design so it didnt retract from my rating of this course.
Other Thoughts:
I was blown away by the beauty of this course and how much fun it was. After I was done I immediately wanted to play again. That says a lot about a course that is so long and elevated.
This course really shines with its amazing par 4's they are all some of the best I've ever played.
The Par 5's are really unique as well and I enjoyed them .
Muddy Run has something special to offer for every disc golfer. If you are in Pennsylvania don't miss out on this course it could be very well the best course in Pennsylvania after a few more reviews.
This course really shines with its amazing par 4's they are all some of the best I've ever played.
The Par 5's are really unique as well and I enjoyed them .
Muddy Run has something special to offer for every disc golfer. If you are in Pennsylvania don't miss out on this course it could be very well the best course in Pennsylvania after a few more reviews.
6
2
Rhyno1
Experience:
7.2 years
9 played
3 reviews
Beginner Friendly? YES 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Updated:
Played on:Nov 24, 2020
Played the course:5+ times
Pros:
The course is a beautiful hike. I see the course as 3 different playing levels. Beginner, (see below), intermediate and pro. I do work on the course and play every week and I always love playing. There is just so much variety.
Cons:
On hole 16 the grass can get high and it can be hard to find your disc.
If you line up where your throw lands they can be found pretty easily.
If you line up where your throw lands they can be found pretty easily.
Other Thoughts:
Many reviewers have stated that the course is not for beginners. I disagree. I have taken many people on this course who have never played and they had great experience. Here is a way to play 9 holes that avoids the hills and the long holes. When you go into the park past the guard house keep turning right until you come to a pavilion at the top of the hill. Enter the woods here and start on 4 silver. Play 4,5,6 silvers then head to 9 and play thru to 13. Play 7 silver back to the car.
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8
Crfmdg
Experience:
2 played
1 reviews
New favorite course! 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Nov 7, 2017
Played the course:5+ times
Pros:
After playing most of the courses in south central Pennsylvania, this one has it all. Excellent layout with a challenging "short" tee pads. World class "long" layout.
Cons:
newer players to disc golf might find this course to be more than a challenge.
Other Thoughts:
its a hike!!
9
0
alrey
Experience:
23.9 years
18 played
2 reviews
Course expertly walks the line between challenging and approachable 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Oct 21, 2017
Played the course:5+ times
Pros:
Muddy Run is easily among the more challenging, high level courses I have gotten to play, but it at the same time manages to be approachable for an intermediate player like myself. This is a course where my rounds are filled equal parts with "How do I execute the shot I need to execute to get my Birdie?" and "I wonder how the pros would attack this one...".
The diversity and elevation is at times daunting, but makes for some interesting and gorgeous shots (especially holes 2, 6, and 16) when coming downhill out of the trees.
The pads and baskets are all excellent, and the tee signs are some of the best I've seen - both in terms of describing the hole, and adding a little bit of extra flavor (native birds) as a distraction if you desire it.
It is also great to see the course continuing to evolve and improve as a response to feedback from the community, and a great corps of dedicated club members. Every time I return to play this course, there seems to be some new lines tidied up, or a new rock wall to guide play.
The diversity and elevation is at times daunting, but makes for some interesting and gorgeous shots (especially holes 2, 6, and 16) when coming downhill out of the trees.
The pads and baskets are all excellent, and the tee signs are some of the best I've seen - both in terms of describing the hole, and adding a little bit of extra flavor (native birds) as a distraction if you desire it.
It is also great to see the course continuing to evolve and improve as a response to feedback from the community, and a great corps of dedicated club members. Every time I return to play this course, there seems to be some new lines tidied up, or a new rock wall to guide play.
Cons:
There are a couple holes which could benefit from "next tee this way" signage; I recall the 10 - to - 11 transition being a little tricky on my first round.
The high grass is also a disc-eater on holes 16 and 17. I've spent far too long looking for discs that have landed perfectly in my group's line of sight, only to have them swallowed up by the earth in the time it takes to walk to the landing zone. Given the nature of the grass in the area, I don't think this issue is likely to change - it'll be short when it's mowed, and long when it's not.
The high grass is also a disc-eater on holes 16 and 17. I've spent far too long looking for discs that have landed perfectly in my group's line of sight, only to have them swallowed up by the earth in the time it takes to walk to the landing zone. Given the nature of the grass in the area, I don't think this issue is likely to change - it'll be short when it's mowed, and long when it's not.
Other Thoughts:
Overall, this is just one of the most engaging course I've played, and it keeps me wanting to come back. In isolation, I know I *can* birdie any of the holes, even without a 450' drive or eye-of-the-needle tunnel shot.
Have I? Definitely not. Will I some day? Hopefully. But at least I know I *can*, and that keeps me coming back, because the challenge means it'll be so, so satisfying when I get it.
Have I? Definitely not. Will I some day? Hopefully. But at least I know I *can*, and that keeps me coming back, because the challenge means it'll be so, so satisfying when I get it.
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10
dpdadv
Experience:
6.9 years
7 played
1 reviews
Beautiful course 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Oct 22, 2017
Played the course:once
Pros:
Great holes, beautiful scenery, great challenge. The course was clean and well maintained. Easy to know where to go next which I have found is not always a priority at other courses. I am very much a beginner and played from the silvers and at no point did I feel overwhelmed. Course was fair and challenging and a great hike for this out of shape guy
Other Thoughts:
Thank you to everyone for the time and effort that was put into this course.
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10
Jmk5704
Experience:
9.5 years
58 played
32 reviews
Amazing course 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Jul 20, 2017
Played the course:once
Pros:
I have played courses all over the US and this is one of the best I have ever played. The holes are clean and with a ton of variety, in all areas. The tee signs are massive and easy to see from a far distance and have a lot of good information that's helpful. I definitely consider this the best course in PA
Cons:
The was a lot of rocks and in some cases it was right under that basket, which is hard on the putters
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4
Shaunjay
Experience:
18 years
25 played
5 reviews
Fun course... Very challenging 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Updated:
Played on:Jul 7, 2017
Played the course:2-4 times
Pros:
Well planned. Great variety of shots. Challenging, but worth the drive. It's probably designed more for the advanced players, but playing the silver tee pads can be a lot of fun for people new to the sport as well. I personally like to mix up the silver and gold tees on a round for a little bit more variety. This course just has about every shot you could pull out of your bag on it. Some great flick shots, some great backhand shots, turnovers... it's mostly wooded, but has open holes too. I really love playing this course.
Cons:
Sometimes the grass in the fields isn't mowed down very well, so you just have to check with the locals to see if anybody's been there recently.
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14
jfreedom78
Experience:
1 played
1 reviews
Best Course in Central PA 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Apr 15, 2017
Played the course:2-4 times
Pros:
Best course in Lancaster County, and that says a lot because Lancaster County has like six courses!!!! The view from hole 6 is incredible. That's all i have time for!
Cons:
the elevation changes might be hard on the elderly or overweight, but i love it!
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0
bsheisey
Experience:
12 years
19 played
2 reviews
Best Course in South Central PA! 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Apr 9, 2017
Played the course:2-4 times
Pros:
- Beautiful, well maintained course with scenic views off of many of the teepads in a lightly used area of the park.
- The course does not favor right or left-handed throwers, providing doglegs in either direction throughout the course.
- Excellent use of elevation with a wide variety of uphill and downhill looks.
- Great balance between wooded and open holes.
- Large, level teepads that are adequate for the run-ups required for big drives.
- Gold and Silver teepads that provide different looks and shorter options for less-experienced players.
- Large, descriptive tee signs that describe the path and elevation change of the holes.
- The fairways, while narrow at times, have been cleaned of brush and debris to provide a clear path of least resistance on the way to the pin.
- Newly installed log benches are located at many of the teepads.
- There is plenty of parking located immediately off of Hole 1's teepad.
- Muddy Run Recreational Park is an excellent place to make a weekend trip, complete with camping, boating, fishing, hiking, a soccer golf course, clean restrooms and a full service snack and bait shop.
- The course does not favor right or left-handed throwers, providing doglegs in either direction throughout the course.
- Excellent use of elevation with a wide variety of uphill and downhill looks.
- Great balance between wooded and open holes.
- Large, level teepads that are adequate for the run-ups required for big drives.
- Gold and Silver teepads that provide different looks and shorter options for less-experienced players.
- Large, descriptive tee signs that describe the path and elevation change of the holes.
- The fairways, while narrow at times, have been cleaned of brush and debris to provide a clear path of least resistance on the way to the pin.
- Newly installed log benches are located at many of the teepads.
- There is plenty of parking located immediately off of Hole 1's teepad.
- Muddy Run Recreational Park is an excellent place to make a weekend trip, complete with camping, boating, fishing, hiking, a soccer golf course, clean restrooms and a full service snack and bait shop.
Cons:
- More of a warning than a con, but this course is geared towards advanced disc golfers. Even the silver teepads are challenging, and beginner golfers may become discouraged.
- Without previous knowledge of the course it can be difficult to locate the pin on a number of the holes. I have the understanding that flags have already been purchased and should be installed in the next month or two.
- The course loops back on itself for the most part, but there is a decent walk from 18's pin to the parking area.
- Without previous knowledge of the course it can be difficult to locate the pin on a number of the holes. I have the understanding that flags have already been purchased and should be installed in the next month or two.
- The course loops back on itself for the most part, but there is a decent walk from 18's pin to the parking area.
Other Thoughts:
Here's a quick rundown of each of the holes from the Gold position:
1. Uphill and uphill again. A first drive that lands near the base of the steeper hill should provide a decent approach to set you up for birdie.
2. A huge bomb off the top of the hill you just climbed. Staying to the right of the fairway with your first drive gives you a better angle for your approach to the basket.
3. Stay. In. The. Fairway. I tried to cut the corners once... It didn't work. Don't try to bite off too much with your drives, as staying in the narrow fairway is more important than a little extra distance.
4. Err right on your first drive. Missing left will result in a near impossible approach at the basket and likely extra strokes.
5. Just throw straight. But not too straight, or you'll find the disc magnet tree in the middle of the fairway.
6. A prevailing right-to-left wind and a narrow fairway off the teepad make finding this green difficult. Right-handed throwers need to generate some turn in order to finish towards the basket. It is far too easy to fade early and end up well left of the pin.
7. The distance and elevation will make this a tough birdie to convert. Throw straight as hard as you can and avoid the patches of trees on either side of the fairway.
8. This is one of my favorite holes of the course. A drive that finishes too close to the treeline will make for a very difficult approach. Try to finish your drive to the left while maintaining distance, and look for a smooth hyzer approach that skips towards the basket.
9. Throw it straight or take a wide hyzer to reach the protected basket.
10. Probably the toughest hole on the course. The approach to the basket is extremely challenging, even with a perfect drive off the tee. As with Hole 3, staying in the fairway is far more important than trying for extra distance. A first drive that finished too far left or turns right into the woods will put you in a world of trouble.
11. A left-handed throwers dream. Another hole where cutting the corner will get you into trouble.
12. Don't go left. Any disc that fades down the extremely steep slope will make saving par a tall order.
13. The shortest hole on the course, and probably the easiest birdie. The elevation has the potential to stop a disc early if released too low.
14. Another personal favorite. Muscle your drive off the tee to carry up the hill and around the first corner. A good first drive should set you up for a long sweeping right to left approach that carries you far down the hill. A perfect approach could result in an eagle look, but an unfortunate kick could make par difficult to obtain. It is important not to fade out too far to the left as you carry down the hill.
15. A straight-forward hole that leads straight up the hill. Bite off as much as you can with the first drive to make for an easier approach to set up a birdie.
16. A breath taking view off the tee with a fun bomb down the hill. Birdies are achieved through an accurate approach, while avoiding going OB beyond the pin. A first drive that finishes below the horizon may take some time to locate in the grass.
17. Back up the hill. Your first drive should take you as close to the steep slope as possible, as coming up short will make achieving the necessary elevation to the pin very difficult. Parking your tee shot immediately in front of the gap in the trees is a great place to be.
18. A tough finishing hole for right-handed players. Maintaining a long anhyzer line without turning into the trees or fading out early is the name of the game. Unless of course you have a proficient forehand in your repertoire.
Overall this is an amazing course that will continue to become more refined. It is difficult to believe that this course is only a few months into its existence.
1. Uphill and uphill again. A first drive that lands near the base of the steeper hill should provide a decent approach to set you up for birdie.
2. A huge bomb off the top of the hill you just climbed. Staying to the right of the fairway with your first drive gives you a better angle for your approach to the basket.
3. Stay. In. The. Fairway. I tried to cut the corners once... It didn't work. Don't try to bite off too much with your drives, as staying in the narrow fairway is more important than a little extra distance.
4. Err right on your first drive. Missing left will result in a near impossible approach at the basket and likely extra strokes.
5. Just throw straight. But not too straight, or you'll find the disc magnet tree in the middle of the fairway.
6. A prevailing right-to-left wind and a narrow fairway off the teepad make finding this green difficult. Right-handed throwers need to generate some turn in order to finish towards the basket. It is far too easy to fade early and end up well left of the pin.
7. The distance and elevation will make this a tough birdie to convert. Throw straight as hard as you can and avoid the patches of trees on either side of the fairway.
8. This is one of my favorite holes of the course. A drive that finishes too close to the treeline will make for a very difficult approach. Try to finish your drive to the left while maintaining distance, and look for a smooth hyzer approach that skips towards the basket.
9. Throw it straight or take a wide hyzer to reach the protected basket.
10. Probably the toughest hole on the course. The approach to the basket is extremely challenging, even with a perfect drive off the tee. As with Hole 3, staying in the fairway is far more important than trying for extra distance. A first drive that finished too far left or turns right into the woods will put you in a world of trouble.
11. A left-handed throwers dream. Another hole where cutting the corner will get you into trouble.
12. Don't go left. Any disc that fades down the extremely steep slope will make saving par a tall order.
13. The shortest hole on the course, and probably the easiest birdie. The elevation has the potential to stop a disc early if released too low.
14. Another personal favorite. Muscle your drive off the tee to carry up the hill and around the first corner. A good first drive should set you up for a long sweeping right to left approach that carries you far down the hill. A perfect approach could result in an eagle look, but an unfortunate kick could make par difficult to obtain. It is important not to fade out too far to the left as you carry down the hill.
15. A straight-forward hole that leads straight up the hill. Bite off as much as you can with the first drive to make for an easier approach to set up a birdie.
16. A breath taking view off the tee with a fun bomb down the hill. Birdies are achieved through an accurate approach, while avoiding going OB beyond the pin. A first drive that finishes below the horizon may take some time to locate in the grass.
17. Back up the hill. Your first drive should take you as close to the steep slope as possible, as coming up short will make achieving the necessary elevation to the pin very difficult. Parking your tee shot immediately in front of the gap in the trees is a great place to be.
18. A tough finishing hole for right-handed players. Maintaining a long anhyzer line without turning into the trees or fading out early is the name of the game. Unless of course you have a proficient forehand in your repertoire.
Overall this is an amazing course that will continue to become more refined. It is difficult to believe that this course is only a few months into its existence.
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V4nillaGorilla
Experience:
10.2 years
5 played
1 reviews
I hate this course. I can't wait to play it again. 2+ years
Reviewed:
Updated:
Played on:Feb 27, 2017
Played the course:once
Pros:
-Doesn't favor L/R handed players
-Beautiful vistas
-Well thought out pin placements
-EXCELLENT teepads
-Mach V baskets catch really well
-Best tee signs I have seen
-Tough but fair
-Beautiful vistas
-Well thought out pin placements
-EXCELLENT teepads
-Mach V baskets catch really well
-Best tee signs I have seen
-Tough but fair
Cons:
If I am nitpicking:
-many blind holes, often couldn't see the pin even after my second throw on some of the longer holes, could be helped by placing flags atop the baskets and/or coloring some of the baskets instead of leaving them as unpainted steel. My understanding is that flags are in the process of being placed soon. UPDATE: Visibility has been greatly improved with the addition of flags to the baskets that needed them.
-windy days will punish errant throws along the ridgeline
-with the length of the holes and amount of elevation, benches or strategically placed fallen trees/logs would be highly welcomed UPDATE: Seating added in many places
-many blind holes, often couldn't see the pin even after my second throw on some of the longer holes, could be helped by placing flags atop the baskets and/or coloring some of the baskets instead of leaving them as unpainted steel. My understanding is that flags are in the process of being placed soon. UPDATE: Visibility has been greatly improved with the addition of flags to the baskets that needed them.
-windy days will punish errant throws along the ridgeline
-with the length of the holes and amount of elevation, benches or strategically placed fallen trees/logs would be highly welcomed UPDATE: Seating added in many places
Other Thoughts:
After playing this course from the gold tees on a cold windy morning, I am completely convinced that the quintet of evil designers built this monstrosity on an indian burial ground.
Hole One lulls you into a sense of well being with an open throw of about 250' to the base of a hill before continuing another 220'... all uphill, and into the woods.
Hole Two sets up a scenario you will become familiar with on this course. Throwing out of a copse of trees as far as the landscape allows before putting at a basket protected by another copse of trees. IF you bring your big boy arm, and IF you miss the trees lining the early lane, you will be rewarded with watching a drive float down one of the few purely downhill holes this course seems to offer.
Hole Three is where the malicious intent of the designers became evident. 600' par 5 seems fairly reasonable... until you see this serpentine, densely wooded, beast that sports over 70' of elevation as it takes you up to the ridgeline.
Hole Four... and you are still walking/throwing uphill. Take a second to catch your breath because here is where the angry spirits of the woods will try to coax your disc off of the fairway and into the dense jail of trees that line the lane.
Hole Five is the design of a Trickster god. Being the first par three and "only" 333' (half the number of the devil but twice as sinister) it entices you to try to crush one up the tunnel of a fairway. Do not fall victim to it's siren's call unless you can throw a putter that far. The fairway is lined with thin stick like trees and ground clutter looking to eat discs. Safe play is rewarded here.
Hole Six gives you a slight reprieve from what you have just endured. At just under 400' with a drop of over 40' of elevation, even the noodle armed of us get to watch a decent flight of a drive. Just enough to restore some of the confidence the last few holes stripped from you.
Hole Seven again tries to trick you a little bit. Sporting only +10' of overall elevation, the hole begins with a throw over a 25' rise before falling -14' over the duration of the hole to a protected basket. Definitely a fair par three but only the really big arms can summit that crest and get to a birdie-able landing zone.
Hole Eight is a hole that rewards big distance without really punishing inaccuracy. A 600' wide open fairway before a dogleg left to the pin another 150' away. A very fair par four which will give most decent arms a chance at picking up a birdie.
Hole Nine seems a bit out of place when you first approach it. One of the two holes under 300' on this course and at a measly 296', it "feels" like it should be a birdie. It plays a little longer due to it's deceptive +14' elevation over an open fairway. The pin is tucked away nicely in a copse of trees that could impair a misplaced drive or upshot.
Hole Ten has the heart of a succubus. Fight the temptation to try to break off large distances over the 580' length of this hole. Play controlled placement golf or you will likely be carding a double bogey or worse. Don't say I didn't warn you.
Hole Eleven is where I began to suspect foul play in the design of this course. How am I still going uphill? My legs propel me ever forward. I begin to not care what my final score will be, only wanting to say I completed this course, regardless of score, it will not best me. 435' uphill flick line? Sure, why not? You heartless SOB.
Hole Twelve is where the Devil goes on vacation. Any throw that hyzers left is just asking to be a double bogey and the right side isn't that much better. Big drop off behind the basket to punish any who still have the energy to "run" a long putt but miss.
Hole Thirteen is the other <300' hole but again the elevation rears it's ugly head to make a birdie difficult without a big drive or a long putt. This hole seems so much easier on paper but most should escape with an easy look at par.
Hole Fourteen will make you think that the tee sign is mistaken. It boasts a -28' drop in elevation but immediately off the tee pad, the ground rises up about 30' over the first 200' of play before doglegging left and drop 60ish' over the remaining 500+' of play. Apparently even the downhill holes are uphill now. Trees abound and have seemingly been cursed to spend the rest of eternity slapping the efforts of well meaning disc golfers out of the sky. This basket is particularly hard to spot nestled as far as possible down the hill and on the tree line. As with everywhere else on this course, if you are unsure of where the basket is, look to the most difficult, furthest away point, and there it will be, solemnly mocking you.
Hole Fifteen is another blind hole, as usual it is uphill. I barely look up as I throw my drive and trudge begrudgingly back to the summit I only just descended. According to the tee sign, there is an anhyzer/flick route but it seems cluttered and will rarely be used in its current state. I escape with a par only because I correctly guessed where the basket would be.
Hole Sixteen is one of my favorites on the course. Yes it is 700+', yes the basket is tucked away in trees as far away as the property allows. Still watching the full flight of a drive after having to play so much more conservative in the preceding woods seems like a gift, perhaps the spirits that live here have accepted that I will finish this course despite their best efforts.
Hole Seventeen... I should have known. I am once again going to climb that hill, only this time I will have to throw 340' feet across an open field with enough accuracy to hit the gap in the trees that allows entry to the vertical fairway. I take solace in the fact that the remaining hole can't be uphill, as I will already be up there.
Hole 18, why in the name of all that is holy did you make me walk up the hill to 17's basket only to trudge back down the hill to 18's tee pad? I was hoping for some triumphant throw from the top of the world to the beautifully raised basket in the open field. Something like hole 16 but only 450' so there would be a chance at a ridiculous ace coming off the hill. Instead I get a 420' anhyzer out of the woods. It is deceptively downhill and my drive stretches out further than I thought it would.
I hate this course, I can't wait to play it again. Be back next week.
Hole One lulls you into a sense of well being with an open throw of about 250' to the base of a hill before continuing another 220'... all uphill, and into the woods.
Hole Two sets up a scenario you will become familiar with on this course. Throwing out of a copse of trees as far as the landscape allows before putting at a basket protected by another copse of trees. IF you bring your big boy arm, and IF you miss the trees lining the early lane, you will be rewarded with watching a drive float down one of the few purely downhill holes this course seems to offer.
Hole Three is where the malicious intent of the designers became evident. 600' par 5 seems fairly reasonable... until you see this serpentine, densely wooded, beast that sports over 70' of elevation as it takes you up to the ridgeline.
Hole Four... and you are still walking/throwing uphill. Take a second to catch your breath because here is where the angry spirits of the woods will try to coax your disc off of the fairway and into the dense jail of trees that line the lane.
Hole Five is the design of a Trickster god. Being the first par three and "only" 333' (half the number of the devil but twice as sinister) it entices you to try to crush one up the tunnel of a fairway. Do not fall victim to it's siren's call unless you can throw a putter that far. The fairway is lined with thin stick like trees and ground clutter looking to eat discs. Safe play is rewarded here.
Hole Six gives you a slight reprieve from what you have just endured. At just under 400' with a drop of over 40' of elevation, even the noodle armed of us get to watch a decent flight of a drive. Just enough to restore some of the confidence the last few holes stripped from you.
Hole Seven again tries to trick you a little bit. Sporting only +10' of overall elevation, the hole begins with a throw over a 25' rise before falling -14' over the duration of the hole to a protected basket. Definitely a fair par three but only the really big arms can summit that crest and get to a birdie-able landing zone.
Hole Eight is a hole that rewards big distance without really punishing inaccuracy. A 600' wide open fairway before a dogleg left to the pin another 150' away. A very fair par four which will give most decent arms a chance at picking up a birdie.
Hole Nine seems a bit out of place when you first approach it. One of the two holes under 300' on this course and at a measly 296', it "feels" like it should be a birdie. It plays a little longer due to it's deceptive +14' elevation over an open fairway. The pin is tucked away nicely in a copse of trees that could impair a misplaced drive or upshot.
Hole Ten has the heart of a succubus. Fight the temptation to try to break off large distances over the 580' length of this hole. Play controlled placement golf or you will likely be carding a double bogey or worse. Don't say I didn't warn you.
Hole Eleven is where I began to suspect foul play in the design of this course. How am I still going uphill? My legs propel me ever forward. I begin to not care what my final score will be, only wanting to say I completed this course, regardless of score, it will not best me. 435' uphill flick line? Sure, why not? You heartless SOB.
Hole Twelve is where the Devil goes on vacation. Any throw that hyzers left is just asking to be a double bogey and the right side isn't that much better. Big drop off behind the basket to punish any who still have the energy to "run" a long putt but miss.
Hole Thirteen is the other <300' hole but again the elevation rears it's ugly head to make a birdie difficult without a big drive or a long putt. This hole seems so much easier on paper but most should escape with an easy look at par.
Hole Fourteen will make you think that the tee sign is mistaken. It boasts a -28' drop in elevation but immediately off the tee pad, the ground rises up about 30' over the first 200' of play before doglegging left and drop 60ish' over the remaining 500+' of play. Apparently even the downhill holes are uphill now. Trees abound and have seemingly been cursed to spend the rest of eternity slapping the efforts of well meaning disc golfers out of the sky. This basket is particularly hard to spot nestled as far as possible down the hill and on the tree line. As with everywhere else on this course, if you are unsure of where the basket is, look to the most difficult, furthest away point, and there it will be, solemnly mocking you.
Hole Fifteen is another blind hole, as usual it is uphill. I barely look up as I throw my drive and trudge begrudgingly back to the summit I only just descended. According to the tee sign, there is an anhyzer/flick route but it seems cluttered and will rarely be used in its current state. I escape with a par only because I correctly guessed where the basket would be.
Hole Sixteen is one of my favorites on the course. Yes it is 700+', yes the basket is tucked away in trees as far away as the property allows. Still watching the full flight of a drive after having to play so much more conservative in the preceding woods seems like a gift, perhaps the spirits that live here have accepted that I will finish this course despite their best efforts.
Hole Seventeen... I should have known. I am once again going to climb that hill, only this time I will have to throw 340' feet across an open field with enough accuracy to hit the gap in the trees that allows entry to the vertical fairway. I take solace in the fact that the remaining hole can't be uphill, as I will already be up there.
Hole 18, why in the name of all that is holy did you make me walk up the hill to 17's basket only to trudge back down the hill to 18's tee pad? I was hoping for some triumphant throw from the top of the world to the beautifully raised basket in the open field. Something like hole 16 but only 450' so there would be a chance at a ridiculous ace coming off the hill. Instead I get a 420' anhyzer out of the woods. It is deceptively downhill and my drive stretches out further than I thought it would.
I hate this course, I can't wait to play it again. Be back next week.
4
6
Adelaurentis
Experience:
20.4 years
28 played
3 reviews
So Awesome! 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Feb 24, 2017
Played the course:2-4 times
Pros:
It combines all the best features of my previous favorite long distance courses in PA and DE, and it's planned out so well that it gives you a chance to play decent without feeling horrible about yourself.
Other Thoughts:
It's l like Brandywine, Bear Creek, Butter Valley, Carousel, French, Iron Hill, Nixon, Nocki, Sank had a course baby and Muddy Run was born
9
0
Afropirg
Experience:
9.8 years
34 played
19 reviews
Muddy Run 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Feb 2, 2017
Played the course:once
Pros:
- Excellent tee signs
- tough but fair course
- elevation change
- mach v baskets
- concrete tee pads
- next tee pad visable from the previous holes basket
- beautiful park
- scenic views
- plenty of other things to do in the park other than disc golf
- Soccer Golf course away from the disc golf course
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- tough but fair course
- elevation change
- mach v baskets
- concrete tee pads
- next tee pad visable from the previous holes basket
- beautiful park
- scenic views
- plenty of other things to do in the park other than disc golf
- Soccer Golf course away from the disc golf course
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Cons:
- only thing I can think of is that I want in the rough, stepped in a gofer hole feel forward into a branch, got a half inch splinter and possibly broke a finger on my non-throwing hand.
totally not the courses fault....
totally not the courses fault....
Other Thoughts:
Heard about this course on Reddit and later saw it being promoted by LAFS. Kind of just popped up and wow......this is an amazing course.
For the record we played the gold layout. Par 68. You start off with a par 4, 4, 4, 5 and then finally a par 3. Great mix of open and wooded holes. Bomber holes and technical holes.
Really enjoyed the par 4 and 5's in the woods. The par 5's are some really fun challenging holes.
Tee signs are impeccable! Posting the distance of the doglegs from the tee is great to know. Also loved the information of the birds that you can find in the park. Tee signs are almost like billboards and are easy to pick out from the basket.
The tee signs also list the elevation changes....especailly like on one of tha par 5's it tells you the elevation change is a -28' when you're looking at a big uphill shot off the tee....you soon realized that yea.....there is a massive down hill once you get to the top.
My only regret is not going back and playing silvers right away. I will defiantly be taking the 2 hour drive back out to play this course.
Very well done LAFS......excellent course. I can't think of anything I would like to see changed to make this a better course.
For the record we played the gold layout. Par 68. You start off with a par 4, 4, 4, 5 and then finally a par 3. Great mix of open and wooded holes. Bomber holes and technical holes.
Really enjoyed the par 4 and 5's in the woods. The par 5's are some really fun challenging holes.
Tee signs are impeccable! Posting the distance of the doglegs from the tee is great to know. Also loved the information of the birds that you can find in the park. Tee signs are almost like billboards and are easy to pick out from the basket.
The tee signs also list the elevation changes....especailly like on one of tha par 5's it tells you the elevation change is a -28' when you're looking at a big uphill shot off the tee....you soon realized that yea.....there is a massive down hill once you get to the top.
My only regret is not going back and playing silvers right away. I will defiantly be taking the 2 hour drive back out to play this course.
Very well done LAFS......excellent course. I can't think of anything I would like to see changed to make this a better course.
9
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New Best Course in the State? 2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Jan 1, 2017
Played the course:2-4 times
Pros:
Incredible! For comparison this course is basically 70% Deer Lakes and 30% Iron Hill -- and might even be the best course in the Mid-Atlantic region when compared against those courses and others like Moraine and Nockamixon.
It's full of amazing, fun, and diverse shots on terrific terrain. The course essentially winds its way around a large ridge with lots of mature trees and a few open areas. The fairways through the woods are actually pretty fair, especially for a brand new course. It's definitely a course for big arms but it does have two nice sets of concrete tee pads (which I would guess play about 975 rated and 900 rated). Almost every hole is an aesthetic treat, whether throwing out over an open area or through the woods.
It's full of amazing, fun, and diverse shots on terrific terrain. The course essentially winds its way around a large ridge with lots of mature trees and a few open areas. The fairways through the woods are actually pretty fair, especially for a brand new course. It's definitely a course for big arms but it does have two nice sets of concrete tee pads (which I would guess play about 975 rated and 900 rated). Almost every hole is an aesthetic treat, whether throwing out over an open area or through the woods.
Cons:
No water holes. Hole 9 is not as extraordinary as the other 17 holes.
Other Thoughts:
Hole 16 is named "bald eagle." During my first time playing that hole I actually had a bald eagle flying over my head.
Bring along a soccer ball. My brothers, Dad, and I had way too much fun playing foot golf (our first experience) on the foot golf course immediately adjacent to the disc golf course.
It boggles my mind that a course could be this good on Day 1. Great job to those that made it happen!
Bring along a soccer ball. My brothers, Dad, and I had way too much fun playing foot golf (our first experience) on the foot golf course immediately adjacent to the disc golf course.
It boggles my mind that a course could be this good on Day 1. Great job to those that made it happen!
