Eight's one of my faves & ace-able with a sure throw. The distance should be roughly proximate to the sign for either placement. The right will be visible from the tee while the left will be down the 'road' at the end of the trees. Float a fading mid down over the stump you can make out way down on the left & you may hear chains. Don't be a Hercules though cuz you can definitely end up a little wet.