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Wabash Washout reviews
12
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Wabash Cannonball....right into an OB pond.... 2+ years
Reviewed:
Updated:
Played on:Oct 10, 2020
Played the course:once
Pros:
- McAllister Park is home to two epic, gold-level, 18-hole courses: Wabash Woods and Wabash Washout. The two courses are opposite sides of the same coin: while the differences between the two stand out at first, after a few play-throughs, the similarities in design begin to stand out. Wabash Woods, as the name suggests, is a heavily wooded affair. Wabash Washout, located on the site of an old municipal ball golf course, and is more open (though still with its fair share of deep rough and trees to avoid) and lengthier, with rolling elevation. Both courses force successful shot-shaping to landing zones, often a couple of times per hole, in order to score well. These courses are about managing the length, navigating the hazards, finding the landing zones, and executing a wide variety of shots.
- Elevation is much more of a factor on Washout than on Woods. The rolling golf-style moguls provide tons of spills and thrills from long downhill bombs (#1 gold) to short, uphill, blind ace runs. Nothing mountainous, but for an old municipal ball golf course, I was pleasantly surprised with the amount of elevation here, as well as its successful incorporation into the overall design.
- Tees and signage are all top-notch. Each hole has three sets of tees (most are beautiful concrete affairs, although a few tee locations look to be still in the process of being installed). Each tee has a beautiful accurate, detailed sign showing distance, OBs, and bunkers. Many holes have specific information printed regarding what to do with each hazard: bunkers are typically a non-stroke, put your disc where you entered the bunker dealio; OBs are stroke penalties and put your disc where you entered OB. Variations on this are explicitly spelled out on signage, leaving nothing to doubt. The OB marked on the signage is very clearly marked with orange flags around mostly old water hazards (now dry). I'm not certain if they are dry year round, or if it was a drought, or what the deal is...if water indeed fills these hazards, this course would become even more brutal...love it.
- Each hole has gold, blue, and red level tees. Red tees are fun and challenging but lops off a *ton* of the length and difficulty here. Blue tees up the ante and require a lot more distance off the tee in order to hit landing zones for successful second or approach shots. The Gold tees are a bully that pushes you down, skins your knees up, steals your lunch money, calls you 'Sally', and punches you in the mouth for good measure. But Gold's the cool kid in town so you take your lumps, suck it up, and head back next weekend for more because, well, this course kicks ass. That's just what it does. The different tees often radically change the way the hole plays, and doesn't just add increased hole lengths, but completely different angles off the tee, hazards to avoid, etc.
- Risk vs. reward is rampant here. You'll constantly find yourself asking, "Can I make it over that bunker? What will that do if I don't? Can I make it over that OB?" The OB ex- water hazards are numerous and MUST be managed successfully to score anything close to a reasonable score. Sometimes aggressively attacking a landing zone brings into play trees or heavy, thick, nasty rough that could be easily avoided if laying up. Trying for the extra distance in other instances risks OB. It's a fine balance to strike, and should prove highly rewarding especially for experienced, advanced, and pro players. Recreational or beginner golfers should stick to the Reds and still expect a thumping.
- Standout holes include #'s 1, 3, 4, 12, and 15.
- Right next to the parking lot is the old golf course's driving range, which now serves as a disc golf driving range. Neat.
- Elevation is much more of a factor on Washout than on Woods. The rolling golf-style moguls provide tons of spills and thrills from long downhill bombs (#1 gold) to short, uphill, blind ace runs. Nothing mountainous, but for an old municipal ball golf course, I was pleasantly surprised with the amount of elevation here, as well as its successful incorporation into the overall design.
- Tees and signage are all top-notch. Each hole has three sets of tees (most are beautiful concrete affairs, although a few tee locations look to be still in the process of being installed). Each tee has a beautiful accurate, detailed sign showing distance, OBs, and bunkers. Many holes have specific information printed regarding what to do with each hazard: bunkers are typically a non-stroke, put your disc where you entered the bunker dealio; OBs are stroke penalties and put your disc where you entered OB. Variations on this are explicitly spelled out on signage, leaving nothing to doubt. The OB marked on the signage is very clearly marked with orange flags around mostly old water hazards (now dry). I'm not certain if they are dry year round, or if it was a drought, or what the deal is...if water indeed fills these hazards, this course would become even more brutal...love it.
- Each hole has gold, blue, and red level tees. Red tees are fun and challenging but lops off a *ton* of the length and difficulty here. Blue tees up the ante and require a lot more distance off the tee in order to hit landing zones for successful second or approach shots. The Gold tees are a bully that pushes you down, skins your knees up, steals your lunch money, calls you 'Sally', and punches you in the mouth for good measure. But Gold's the cool kid in town so you take your lumps, suck it up, and head back next weekend for more because, well, this course kicks ass. That's just what it does. The different tees often radically change the way the hole plays, and doesn't just add increased hole lengths, but completely different angles off the tee, hazards to avoid, etc.
- Risk vs. reward is rampant here. You'll constantly find yourself asking, "Can I make it over that bunker? What will that do if I don't? Can I make it over that OB?" The OB ex- water hazards are numerous and MUST be managed successfully to score anything close to a reasonable score. Sometimes aggressively attacking a landing zone brings into play trees or heavy, thick, nasty rough that could be easily avoided if laying up. Trying for the extra distance in other instances risks OB. It's a fine balance to strike, and should prove highly rewarding especially for experienced, advanced, and pro players. Recreational or beginner golfers should stick to the Reds and still expect a thumping.
- Standout holes include #'s 1, 3, 4, 12, and 15.
- Right next to the parking lot is the old golf course's driving range, which now serves as a disc golf driving range. Neat.
Cons:
- No benches or trash cans, if those are important to you. More an FYI than a real con; did not affect rating.
- Some may find the aggressive OB off-putting, but I thought it was really tastefully done, albeit at a high level of difficulty.
- A little repetitive, especially down the stretch, considering this was an old ball golf course.
- Some may find the aggressive OB off-putting, but I thought it was really tastefully done, albeit at a high level of difficulty.
- A little repetitive, especially down the stretch, considering this was an old ball golf course.
Other Thoughts:
- Epic toughness from the longs.
- Wabash Washout's on-site sister course, along with the great design and challenge, makes McAllister Park a MUST HIT for those traveling through the area (along with Camp Cullom a little farther southeast in Franklin). These aren't "best of the best"...but they fall not short, and taken together they can offer a full day of epic, big boy discin' on complimentary-styled monsters.
- This course received a moderate bump in rating due to the complimentary nature of Wabash Washout's sister course, Wabash Woods, which greatly increases the overall vibe.
- Wabash Washout's on-site sister course, along with the great design and challenge, makes McAllister Park a MUST HIT for those traveling through the area (along with Camp Cullom a little farther southeast in Franklin). These aren't "best of the best"...but they fall not short, and taken together they can offer a full day of epic, big boy discin' on complimentary-styled monsters.
- This course received a moderate bump in rating due to the complimentary nature of Wabash Washout's sister course, Wabash Woods, which greatly increases the overall vibe.
4
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jaredsnoble
Experience:
5 played
5 reviews
2+ years drive by
Reviewed:
Played on:Jun 30, 2019
Played the course:once
Pros:
-Long holes that are not just open field bombs, but not densely wooded
- 18 new chainstars
-Good mix of forehand/backhand lines
-Usually not crowded at all
- 18 new chainstars
-Good mix of forehand/backhand lines
-Usually not crowded at all
Cons:
-Navigation can be a struggle the first time out, but actually flows well
-Not always mowed
-Long grass/ ponds (when not dried out) are disc eaters
-Not always mowed
-Long grass/ ponds (when not dried out) are disc eaters
Other Thoughts:
Biggest issue in navigation are holes 1, 4, and 10 probably
Hole 1: Find the practice basket to the side of the building next to the parking lot and follow the path that is to the left that winds around a mound/hill
Hole 4: After playing 3 you will see a tee very close but that is 8, hole 4 requires you to keep walking south and cross the paved trails
Hole 10: Walk back to the right behind 9 to the path
Really, a little thinking goes a long ways, and if you're unsure look for mowed paths in long grass. Also the Wabash Disc Golf Club facebook group has a good map
Hole 1: Find the practice basket to the side of the building next to the parking lot and follow the path that is to the left that winds around a mound/hill
Hole 4: After playing 3 you will see a tee very close but that is 8, hole 4 requires you to keep walking south and cross the paved trails
Hole 10: Walk back to the right behind 9 to the path
Really, a little thinking goes a long ways, and if you're unsure look for mowed paths in long grass. Also the Wabash Disc Golf Club facebook group has a good map
6
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Converted Ball Golf Course for All Levels 2+ years
Reviewed:
Played on:Nov 25, 2018
Played the course:once
Pros:
- Three tee lengths for all levels. The middle tees will probably be the best choice for intermediate players. The short are mainly for <250ft throwers and the long are for 400ft+.
-Awesome tee signs on the front 9.
Good variety of upshots and whole shapes. The ups are usually somewhat guarded or force you to deal with elevation.
-Lots of par 4's and two par 5's.
- Par 5 on the front 9 is my favorite whole, a classic risk reward where going for it in 2 means you have to fly the water and hyzer around trees.
-Lots of OB, hazard, water, and variety. Feels like a tournament style course.
-TONS of parking. Not a multi use course so you won't really see park goers or dog walkers.
-Awesome tee signs on the front 9.
Good variety of upshots and whole shapes. The ups are usually somewhat guarded or force you to deal with elevation.
-Lots of par 4's and two par 5's.
- Par 5 on the front 9 is my favorite whole, a classic risk reward where going for it in 2 means you have to fly the water and hyzer around trees.
-Lots of OB, hazard, water, and variety. Feels like a tournament style course.
-TONS of parking. Not a multi use course so you won't really see park goers or dog walkers.
Cons:
-Lots of the baskets on the back 9 are rusty and in poor shape.
-Prepare to do a LOT of walking, some of the holes have a lot of distance in between
-Somewhat confusing layout for first time player. Definitely bring a course map.
-Very easy to lose discs in the tall rough/water/woods.
-I went on the weekend and it was fairly crowded, I got sandwiched in between two groups.
-Lots of mud and standing water
-Only some baskets are numbered, others are not. Basket #5 is mislabeled as 18.
-Prepare to do a LOT of walking, some of the holes have a lot of distance in between
-Somewhat confusing layout for first time player. Definitely bring a course map.
-Very easy to lose discs in the tall rough/water/woods.
-I went on the weekend and it was fairly crowded, I got sandwiched in between two groups.
-Lots of mud and standing water
-Only some baskets are numbered, others are not. Basket #5 is mislabeled as 18.
Other Thoughts:
The longest and most interesting course I've played--also the first ball golf one too. I had a blast on the front 9 and the tee signs were awesome and easy to follow. The back 9 things really started to slow down and I got lost and frustrated many times. Bring an extra pair of shoes and be prepared to do a ton of walking.
Definitely worth a visit but if it's been rainy or snowy then go to Murdock Park instead--you will have a much drier time.
Definitely worth a visit but if it's been rainy or snowy then go to Murdock Park instead--you will have a much drier time.
6
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On The Banks Of The Wabash 2+ years
Reviewed:
Played on:Sep 3, 2017
Played the course:once
Pros:
Shot Selection: need Backhand, Forehand.
The Course has a full 18 baskets, with one Practice basket.
Three sets of Tees, allowing all skill levels to give it a go
Design take great advantage of the old ball golf course, cool hills and berms to throw over.
Beautiful setting, super peaceful and quiet.
The Course has a full 18 baskets, with one Practice basket.
Three sets of Tees, allowing all skill levels to give it a go
Design take great advantage of the old ball golf course, cool hills and berms to throw over.
Beautiful setting, super peaceful and quiet.
Cons:
Prone to Flooding--that's why the ball golf course was closed down and moved, plan ahead and don't play after recent rains.
Personally, these are things I see others reviewers point out, don't bother me too much:
Natural Tees.
No Tee Signs--they utilize painted rocks with the color-coordinating with Tee. Easy to see for the most part, there are small flags to help spot them with.
No benches by the Tees.
No trash cans, but as many times that I've seen overflowing cans at other Courses, pack it in, pack it out.
Personally, these are things I see others reviewers point out, don't bother me too much:
Natural Tees.
No Tee Signs--they utilize painted rocks with the color-coordinating with Tee. Easy to see for the most part, there are small flags to help spot them with.
No benches by the Tees.
No trash cans, but as many times that I've seen overflowing cans at other Courses, pack it in, pack it out.
Other Thoughts:
I had a great time playing the Washout. I feel like the Rating didn't do it justice.
The rough can be 7-8 feet tall, lining Fairways. Choose accuracy instead of a bit more distance, and you'll stand a better chance of going home with all the Discs you brought.
The former water hazards can be really muddy, even when it hasn't rained in awhile.
I don't ask for lots of amenities from a Course, my main focus is the upkeep of the grounds in general, and the quality of the play--on these two fronts, the Wabash Washout shone brightly.
Big thanks to the Parks Dept with the maintenance of the Course!
The rough can be 7-8 feet tall, lining Fairways. Choose accuracy instead of a bit more distance, and you'll stand a better chance of going home with all the Discs you brought.
The former water hazards can be really muddy, even when it hasn't rained in awhile.
I don't ask for lots of amenities from a Course, my main focus is the upkeep of the grounds in general, and the quality of the play--on these two fronts, the Wabash Washout shone brightly.
Big thanks to the Parks Dept with the maintenance of the Course!
