Finally got my putter out to 250' but

[Mike C]

Nose down / up and apex of the flight are independent of each other. It's weird at first intentionally trying to throw 40 feet high while keeping the nose down, but it's possible and you can get some awesome lines that way, especially with high glide discs. When you throw nose down, even with a putter, you'll see it cut through the air with much less resistance. Lithicon explained many aspects of this well.

This is a technique you can use with drivers too. I do this with a beat up teebird often for breaking 400ft on a slow S curve.

 

[taylor714]

can anyone possibly post a video or picture that is showing these high lines or how far down the nose down angle is at release?

 

[Mike C]

can anyone possibly post a video or picture that is showing these high lines or how far down the nose down angle is at release?

Going on what Lith said, you bend your wrist down so your fingers point at a 45 degree angle to the ground if you stretch them out. Hold the disc with your wrist orientated down like this at release, but throw it at a slight upwards angle. The nose down will make the disc penetrate the air, while the upward angle gives the disc much more time to fly in the air. You can achieve lines like this that can't be hit by throwing low.

Nose angles are an important thing to play around with. After you learn how to throw nose down, you may want to intentionally throw nose up at times to make the disc stall early and hyzer out hard. I can make my Magics hit hard hyzer lines at 250 feet by throwing them a little nose up and with hyzer.

This video shows some putter drives where you can get an idea of the height I use to reach various distances. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx9w6cOs6D4

 

[Mike C]

Saw this posted on DGR. This is what you want your wrist to look like when you release most throws. This is one of the most important things to learn when you become serious about DG and want good distance. The more nose up you throw the more the wind is going to push against the disc, robbing it of D.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/Staplesbubble/Picture156.jpg

 

[JHern]

You want to throw it like a trebuchet (google it, if you don't know it), where the lever is your stopped elbow and the sling is your hand wrapped around the disc. The motion uses your rigidly held out elbow as a fulcrum, and begins with the disc tucked into your right pectoral area (and the wrist cocked and hand wrapped around the disc). Add only a little reachback to pull the disc into the right pec. You want to feel the disc sling off your index and middle fingers at the final moment.

For me, this fixes everything, and I don't even have to think about nose down. The disc also spins faster and tends to turn/fade much less.

 

[WillACarpenter]

I was so proud because I got my wizard out past 300' today. I saw this thread and I just wanted to share. Sorry to be braggadocios.

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[Technohic]

Yeah, well; I will see how I do tomorrow. Went swiming yesterday and while I wasnt doing laps; I had my son and some of his friends hanging on my arms so I would swing them around until they would flip off and chase me to do it again, and for whatever reason, I couldnt sleep well last night as my old shoulder injury was in immense pain. Finally took some Ibuprofen today and the pain isnt there but my shoulders feel "hot" still and am due to play tomorrow.

I've had issues throwing before because of my shoulders tendency to pop out of socket but seemed to have not had as much of an issue after cleaning up some form and throwing smooth with less arm but I never felt pain like that. When I injured my shoulders 16 years ago, they just went numb and that had been the par up till now.

 

[tstack10]

My shoulder hurt last week i thought from throwing but after a few days off i finally started playing again and havent felt pain since.

 

[Technohic]

My shoulder hurt last week i thought from throwing but after a few days off i finally started playing again and havent felt pain since.

Mine held up great after some icy hot, Ibuprofen and an ice pack I was good to go that next day and my throw has gotten a lot smoother to where I didnt even seem to fatigue it at the end of 2 rounds with a few thumbers even tossed in there.

Still trying to get better at keeping the nose down and getting some height but when I do manage to just hit it right, I've hit 350 with my drivers. I just need to consistantly do it.

 

[Lithicon]

They done a good job explaining it. I've had these pics hosted for a while, I posted them somewhere else, but here you go.

These first two I have my forearm up just slightly, but you still get the picture.
Aligning the disc in the life line, and just under the very first index knuckle will put the disc where it needs to be, as shown above.

As you can see, this last picture the disc is more neutral. The wrist is the same, the disc is below the life line in the hand. So, it makes it even harder to establish nose down, this is why it's important to keep the disc under the first index knuckle, and in the life line area of the hand to maintain good nose down.

Also, I stress that you maintain the maximum amount of nose down until you absolutely are able to manipulate it. As EVERYONE loses a small amount of nose down due to the wrist straightening, this is natural and will always happen due to grip strength. But, if you know how to power through wrist extension you can gain it back, but that's another story. But, this is why I stress maintaining as much nose down as you can, because you'll always lose some due to grip strength issues when the wrist opens to neutral. I know this is late, but I just got around to posting it.

*Edit* I"m still working on trying to get video of some long distance putter throws as I haven't been able to acquire a camera. As soon as I can get that, I'll post it up for you all to see.

 

[taylor714]

awesome. Thanks for the pics!