Yep you nailed it - it was definitely "turn the key" - and that became more evident once I dialed that in some. That said, it only helps so much if the swing plane is off, which confounded my results a bit. The more I work on form, the more interested I've become in "root causes" or "upstream problems." You don't want to overlook wrist angle, but sometimes the focus is on there when that's actually fine, but something else is jacked up, making the correct grip/wrist angle/whatever harder to see.
It's a bit of a tough subject because we want to think everyone will play the game right if that makes sense.
We want to think that everyone will drive a car properly, or any other analogy you can come up with. But, what our brain does without strict discipline is screws around. This is why you constantly have to work on your form as a pro golfer, or even an am golfer trying to maintain form, our brains try and screw around because of all these root understandings of stuff.
The most important thing a good coach will do is not address the problem directly, but focus on trying to find the absolute root cause of the issue. This is why I kind of turd on josh a bit, because... he's not educated enough yet, and he's trying to compare joe schmoes form to simon. that's, silly.
It's like looking at a simulator and gathering x-data and then taking those numbers and just focusing on making the tech disc data match that.
Are people going to do that? If you say no, just... go away at this point. Our brain doesn't work like that. It's like when we want to throw further, we don't think about root mechanics that drive a better kinetic chain while standing on the tee pad. We think about "grug smash" and try and muscle some more power out of it. it takes thousands of hours of practice to get that sort of stupidity out of your head.
As much knowledge as I have in form and when I wanna try and throw further, my brain loves to space out while on the course and I muscle discs and hurt my shoulder, again. Why? Because athlete brain is engaged. That part of my brain isn't trained well enough to brace harder and focus on a powerful pocket and extension. So I yank the disc and hurt my shoulder and throw it like 250 feet.
We need to treat tech disc like a dynameter for vehicles.
"I've made x-changes to my form, I've practiced those changes. lets run throw it on the dyno"
And then take 10 swings with the tech disc and figure out the data.
If you're throwing only the tech disc into a net then trying to make adjustments every throw, you're going to lead yourself down the slope of chasing results, not chasing the actions to achieve better results.
It's why I advocate net throwing over field work. You can focus down on form videoing yourself making the adjustments. You're not worried about the flight, you're worried about the journey to throw the disc.
Then you take it into the field cause you've built that muscle memory without outside distractors worrying about how the disc flew, and worrying about where the discs at, or the wind. or did you put enough hyzer on it or not. You want to break down the focus small, then test the results.
Everyone can do what they want, but when you use a tool, you want to maximize its effectiveness, and you have to take into account the human condition and how our dumb brain works vs our smart brain.
You can say all day that you're going to do it smart.
But people continue to go into fields to "work on form" and after about 10 throws, they focus on trying to throw distance shots. Why? Discipline. It's not fun throwing 150 upshots from 120 feet out. So if you're throwing a tech disc, looking at numbers, and trying to make adjustments right away while only throwing it, you're putting yourself in a results loop, not an action correction loop. Because you're most likely making adjustments without understanding or addressing the root issue. Because our brain wants to do things the easiest way possible. So if we lack discipline and understanding, it will immediately take the path it thinks will achieve the results. This is what our subconscious does. This is why you have to use repetition to train your subconscious. Because we want our "auto pilot" feature to have good data.
You gotta think about putting the swing into auto pilot, but all your doing is just nudging the wheel ever so slightly to make tiny corrections.
The tech disc *is* going to be a great tool, especially when used properly.
But it's also going to be a massively detrimental tool because people are going to chase results. Then jump in forums and coaching area's and go "My tech disc data says that I should be throwing 550 feet when I enter it into the simulator, but I'm only seeing 250 on the course, what am I doing wrong?"
It's cheating the data, Your body will chase actions to gain the desired result.
This is why people recommend not using a speed gun to practice disc golf with. Because you start chasing how to throw the disc hard/fast, not how to throw the disc powerfully and well.
