[Discraft] Discraft Punisher

[VictorB]

Picked up a couple of z punishers to compare to my pinnacle outlaws. Hand feel is more comfortable for sure, but obviously the z plastic isn't as grippy. I got a 168 and a 174, right in line with the weights of outlaws i like to carry.

Won't get to throw them until next week but looking forward to checking them out.

 

[VictorB]

Been throwing the punishers lately and they seem to fit well right between my cranks and undertakers. Easier to work a straighter line than the outlaws I had been carrying. Theres a little more high speed turn but less fade, which also fits my style a little better than throwing harder and glatter shots. Still good in a headwind for me also. I'll keep them in my bag for now.

Next problem is figuring out if I need both the mantis and undertaker in the fairway slot or just carry them both and be happy.

 

[Fly_High]

Anyone got any time in with the ESP Punisher?

Curious to how they season and how stable they are.

 

[Fly_High]

So, since Discraft wants to make every disc besides the Surge in new ESP, I am looking to the Punisher to slowly replace my slew of Surges.

Anyone spent time with all the plastics? Looking for Intel on most to least stable of ESP, Z, Big Z.

Halp?!?!

 

[Muddyboots]

Least OS to Most OS
ESP
Big Z
Z
GLO Z

 

[CrimsonDG]

The Ti's fly pretty similar to the Big Z's as well.

 

[ILUVSMGS18]

So, since Discraft wants to make every disc besides the Surge in new ESP, I am looking to the Punisher to slowly replace my slew of Surges.

Don't forget the Wasp!

 

[PMantle]

I think these are going to be popular soon.

 

[Bogey B.O.B.]

Was the Punisher produced to entice Paul??? Did they hold off on promotion of this mold until he join the team?

 

[Myke566]

I think these are going to be popular soon.

You may be right but for me, this mold was super disappointing. A disc that was described as Discraft's Destroyer, it couldn't be more of a flop. For me, they were glideless turds. I could throw my Thunderbirds farther than these.

 

[RocBottom]

Anyone know How the New ESP's fly?

 

[RocBottom]

They must not be that good.

 

[Emoney]

They must not be that good.

The one i ordered (174g esp) was super flippy. Not what i wanted. So i gave it away and ordered a Force. Now im good.

It had a flat flight plate btw

 

[DanJon]

They must not be that good.

I have a feeling they will be super popular in about 6 months.

 

[RocBottom]

I have a feeling they will be super popular in about 6 months.

I'm not sold on McBeth throwing the Punisher if that's what you're referring to. But who knows, you probably know something I don't.

 

[jjmiller]

The Punisher's rim is narrower than a Wraith. I doubt McBeth would even bag one other than just to move another SKU.

 

[Timthenchant3r]

The Punisher's rim is narrower than a Wraith. I doubt McBeth would even bag one other than just to move another SKU.

According to the PDGA Wraith is 2.1 Punisher is 2.2 https://www.pdga.com/files/pdga_approved_discs_110418a.pdf
Unless these aren't considered reliable measurements? I don't know.

 

[jjmiller]

The PDGA measurements aren't reliable.

My calipers show an ESP Punisher to be ~.835" wide- same as the Thrasher and Machete. A couple Wraiths are .850"- same as DD Trespass and Enforcer. Destroyers are ~.900" to maybe .915"(not quite as consistent and I have several)- same as a Defender and Force. And for specificity's sake, I actually have two Crystal Sparkle FLX Forces that are only .890", while the Z I had was .900".

 

[Muddyboots]

Punisher flies more similarly to the Wraith than a Destroyer, IMO. Less HSS than most Destroyers, certainly. Not to say I don't like the mold, but they don't come out to play on windy days. The GLO Z Punishers are the most overstable, if that is what you are looking for.

 

[jjmiller]

Punisher flies more similarly to the Wraith than a Destroyer, IMO. Less HSS than most Destroyers, certainly. Not to say I don't like the mold, but they don't come out to play on windy days. The GLO Z Punishers are the most overstable, if that is what you are looking for.

I agree. Smaller rim width, less HSS. ESP Punisher I have flies more like a Trespass or Wraith.