Kenny showed me these the other day...As stiff as a KC, but tacky like a good Wizard. I've never been a huge KC fan, but these felt sweet. Kenny said that he liked them straight out of the box (he won't throw a regular KC unless it's spent at least a year in his backyard). I'm not sure if these are available yet, but if not they're right around the corner. Some of you guys will probably freak out over these a little.