So I am a regular at this course. This hole is a must get birdie because the previous 4 holes and the next 2 are very difficult. This is a fairly big shot since the elevation gain is pretty extreme. Its one of the only holes I have played that you could put a drive next to the hole and have it roll ALL THE WAY BACK to the tee. The basket is also on such a steep incline 20-40 foot putts are terrifying and go from 2's to 4's pretty easily. I tend to throw a understable disc at this almost as hard as I can and lately have been throwing a ballista on this. Have been getting many birdies doing so. The biggest trick is getting the elevation right because it is quite steep and people often throw to low.