[Compare] Beast vs. Valkyrie

[Sydex]

This is wrong too. A Valk is never flippy unless beat to piss. I can hyzerflip a 6/10 DX over 400' not internet distance. Support and quote accurate information PMantle. FWIW I'm at sea level so no elevation doesn't add to the stability:|

I think you need to throw more Valks.

 

[JuanA]

... but for the rest of us mortals yes, a Valk is flippier than a Beast.

Does this include both versions of Beast (L and X)? I believe I have 2 Beast L molds, DX and Champ, and they are both far more unforgiving than my old DX and current Pro Valk.

 

[PMantle]

Another double? Another double.





This is wrong too. A Valk is never flippy unless beat to piss. I can hyzerflip a 6/10 DX over 400' not internet distance. Support and quote accurate information PMantle. FWIW I'm at sea level so no elevation doesn't add to the stability:|

Come on man

 

[R-Ogre]

Does this include both versions of Beast (L and X)? I believe I have 2 Beast L molds, DX and Champ, and they are both far more unforgiving than my old DX and current Pro Valk.

Comparing a 170G Pro Valk to a 162G GStar Beast (not sure which mold that is) for a thrower (me) with 300ish power:
-I can get some beautiful hyzer flips to flat with the Valk, or thrown flat some nice turn and then fade
-I could not usually get a real hyzer flip with the Beast-more of a straight with fade at the end. Although sometimes on a hyzer I could get it to flatten at the top of the curve for a moment, which is great for getting some extra distance on a hyzer line.
-Beast stood up to a forehand anny flex shot better, though would still turn and burn if I wasn't careful.
-forehand with the Valk usually has to be a hyzer flip or a flat throw, any attempt at an anny flex shot will tend to turn and burn.
-I get 30-50 more feet with the Valk because it sails straight or on a flex line where the beast would tend to fade out because I couldn't quite get it up to speed.

All of these make sense considering each disc is supposed to be a straight flyer (-2 turn, +2 fade) and the Beast is rated one faster than the Valk. I suspect someone with a faster arm than me could throw a Beast about like I throw a Valk. I'm sure we can chalk some of that up to my form, but I threw the two the same and so it's still an apples to apples comparison.

However, I do also have a Blizzard Champ Beast that is suuuper flippy, obnoxiously so. I just chalked that up to Blizzard variability, but maybe it's more representative of the Beast than the GStar is?

 

[SD86]

A Valk is never flippy unless beat to p***.

Not true. A couple of my 15 Valkyries were understable right out of the box. They're not beat to anything, and they're not super lightweight, either; they're in the upper 160s in weight. It may be that flippy Valks aren't the norm, but it's wrong to say they're never flippy right out of the box...

 

[GripEnemy]

Alcohol. I apologize to everyone on this site.

/Grip

 

[PMantle]

Alcohol. I apologize to everyone on this site.

/Grip

 

[Discgolfer48]

I am now getting 330-350 feet with the dx Beast. One went a bit further but it turned and rolled at the end. It wasn't a very good roll though. I'm still waiting for "The Big one".

 

[Discgolfer48]

Today: Dx Beast 352 feet. A few days ago: Champ Beast 327 feet.
I wonder if a Gstar or Pro Beast would be half way in between stabilities.

 

[SD86]

Today: Dx Beast 352 feet. A few days ago: Champ Beast 327 feet.
I wonder if a Gstar or Pro Beast would be half way in between stabilities.

Probably, but as always, rim configuration matters.

 

[bogeyfreetilinfinity]

valkyrie for distance, beast for reliability (older x molds, (pearly champ and the runs just after)

 

[Discgolfer48]

The champ Barry S. beast I have says 2 time.... at the bottom and no flight numbers. It's pretty much a lazer beam at my power level. It won't turn for me.

 

[Discgolfer48]

The champ beast is finally doing an S-turn for me. Took 340 feet to see it.

 

[34blast]

I have a l like new Barry 175 Champ beast that I love. I has pretty good distance. I have tried other molds but too flippy. I use the champ Beast instead of a Wraith where I want a bit more high speed turn and less fade at the end.

I have a star Valkyrie. It is like new, but is sort of flippy. It's a decent downwind drive with some hyzer it seems to go a long way. I typically use Shryke instead of Valkyrie now if it requires a long shot. I get the Valkyrie in the bag for one course in particular and take the Shryke out.

 

[Discgolfer48]

Had a good drive with the DX Beast again. A slight tailwind hyzer flip 355 feet. I usually don't like tailwinds as I get less distance but I gave it my home run swing.

 

[Grogden]

bought a new barry champ beast...i like it ,pretty straighr with a little turn..use for control..fh and bh..downwind almost as long as some faster discs..
ok into a little breeze too....would these be similar to the original mold..bought it just for fun