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Is it softer than Excel as well?
I would prefer a pinnacle with a gravity, but the excel is cheap so no reason not to try it out.
Well, I have been considering moving to a roc/Comet combo but ordered a Pinnacle ghost instead. thoughts? You think a new Pinnacle plus an excel to beat in would be a good combo with comets? I only ever threw a Pinnacle ghost like twice, so...I don't really remember what to expect other than the slick plastic I initially did not like. How does a Pinnacle ghost stack against a roc? I've never thrown a roc...
The 177 Pinnacle Ghost I threw last fall at ~300 was very straight and workable. It held hyzer lines well and could also be flexed a bit for more distance. Glide was very good for a heavy premium plastic mid. Rancho Rocs might have a tick more HSS, but definitely fade more than a Pin Ghost.
You're probably going to get some overlap with a beat excel Ghost and Comet, unless the Comets you throw tend to be very flippy.
It sounds like this may not be the ideal setup, then. I throw a light and a heavy x Comet. They both do everything I want them to do, especially in the woods, but obviously sometimes I want to rip on it. Basically was hoping for something that could fight wind out of the box yet still be a workhorse and use the same disc in a different plastic to beat to straight and then cover the rest with my comets.
Oh well; we will see!
snagged a gravity ghost, held off on the icon.
the excel was disappointing, it is a first run and had more dome. i was browsing through the gravity ghosts at one of my local retailers and saw they had first runs and second. i briefly took out all four (two first run and two production run) and immediately saw a difference. they were all in the same weight range and all orange.
the two first runs had much more of a dome and a significantly lower PLH. the two production runs had a bit of a shoulder but a flat top. they feel much better in the hand and it is easier to release. i snagged one and headed to the course.
perfect. exactly the perfect stability i was looking for. it held its own into a mild headwind, 10-15 mph, without flipping, but it's not at all beefy either. just good HSS and a long gentle fade. i didn't throw it very far, just 280', but i was very happy. it went straight and died, fading about 10' and plopped itself down under the basket. i flexed it out on an anny line that pulled out perfectly on a 280' uphill shot after that and put it 10 feet from the basket. it is the perfect combination of glide and stability. it GOES. i kicked a couple trees and there's not even a mark. the grip is fantastic. i nearly put it in the basket twice while i was practicing with it on random holes. the comet and the ghost are a great pair. they like to be thrown similarly. nice and smooth acceleration, some height and they behave themselves so very well. my bag is starting to follow a bit of a pattern - the wizard likes the same treatment.
i don't even feel like i need my pinnacle, though i am sure it will be a little more overstable which will be welcome. obviously today i was throwing well, but with this and the patriot in my bag i can definitely say i am throwing with confidence.
Glad you're happy. It's a great disc, and despite the softness of the plastic, it beats in very gradually and evenly to become super straight.
In my opinion the Icon is probably what you're looking for instead of the Pinnacle. The Icon flies like a very stable gravity, a lot more fade, maybe the same hss. The Pinnacle on the other hand flew closer to a buzz or Roc3 to me. VERY hss and not as much fade. So the Icon is more like a Ghost IMO. Gravity is awesome, amazing grip and great stability. And I've been very pleasantly surprised by the Excel. It beat it VERY fast and I thought it was going to be junk. Then it stopped beating in (noticeably) and is now just a dead straight flier. No turn, no fade. Flies a lot like a heavy Z Comet. Love me some Ghosts!
Have any DGA breakers? I have a black 177g+ Icon Ghost (thrown 3-5 rounds) I'd be willing to trade.yeah, the excel seems pretty darn bulletproof considering it's "base" plastic! it's awesome. at some point i'll go snag a production run that's closer in PLH/dome to my gravity and see what's up.
as far as the icon goes, i'm not sure! i'm looking more for a reliable workhorse so we'll see, i typically just disc up a bit for the beefy OS mid slot. maybe i can find someone who will let me throw one around here.