Carrollton, GA

Hobbs Farm Park

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Countchunkula
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4.00 star(s)

Hobb Nobb

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Aug 14, 2023 Played the course:once

Pros:

Hobbs provides a mixture of park style and wooded golf with a lean toward former. Each hole has between 2 and 4 tees and 6 holes have a second, permanent, gold basket. All this infrastructure allows for 4 layouts of increasing difficulty, but playing to the same par. While some players prefer additional tees to change the shot shape required for more variety, I prefer additional tees to make the same hole playable, in the same way, for a range of skill levels. Most of my rounds are played with my family, so this type of course design allows us all to compete on a more level playing field. A group of roughly the same skill level could also choose to challenge themselves one round on one of the longer layouts or take it easy and play something more suited to their skill level.

There are a few really good holes at Hobbs. My favorites were: 4, a wooded par 5 that doglegs right to start and then continues straight and slightly downhill to the basket on the far side of a small creek; 7, an uphill, two-throw hole with dense woods/schule on the right side and mature trees overhead that gets steeper as you approach the basket; and 13, a short, slightly downhill throw over a marshy pond with enough trees to prevent a righty from hyzering around. That's not to say those are the only good ones, just the ones that really stood out to me.

This course plays pretty fair. If you throw well (and play tees fitting your skill), you should have bride putts. I can't recall any really fluky elements.

Tees are concrete and adequately sized (except for 17). Baskets are Prodigy and differentiated by color when there are multiples. Signs are located at each tee and have a detailed map showing red, white, and blue tees and the intended flight lines to the basket. The gold tees and baskets seem to have been added later and are not shown on signage at other tees.

Cons:

Hobbs has quite a few bland, field holes with only a few small trees to contend with. I don't mind a mostly open shot or two to breakup a course with a lot of forced lines, but there are too many here and they're mostly on the back 9. Only a few holes really punish bad shots.

While there is some elevation in play, we don't get a significant downhill drive. Hole 8 starts near the top of the hill, but is a relatively short par 3 with a right finish.

The layout here is a bit goofy on the front 9. You cross a road after 1, after 6 you cross 2's fairway and the same road from earlier to get to 7, and 8 plays between 7's basket and 18's fairway. There are these nice, elegant signs with arrows pointing to each tee, but they are about 2"x8" and not readable until you are quite close. I'd much prefer something that doesn't look as nice, but is functional.

While the signs look very nice, the illustrations don't do the best job of reflecting the actual foliage and especially water features. Holes 3-6 appear to have grassy fairways with trees at the edges, but these are actually in fairly dense woods with no grass, some tighter lines, and a complete tree canopy. Looking at the map, the holes in the dense woods, under the mature trees, and in the field don't appear to be much different. Water features were dramatically overstated compared to what I witnessed in August. I'm sure the water lines are higher in the spring, but 17 throws over a cattail marsh, not an inlet.

While we are talking signs, some seem in poor condition, with grime or moisture behind the plexiglass cover obscuring the pretty pictures. This isn't the end of the lack of maintenance that was surprising for what seemed like a clean, well maintained, community. The wooden bridge between 8 and 9 and containing the tees for 17 is decaying. There is a hole in the decking near the end by 17s basket and a hole just to the left of the white/blue tee. The tees on 17 are undersized rubber mats on (slippery when I played) wooden decking. The short mat is larger than the long one for some reason. It's a shame, because 17 could be a fun shot if you didn't have to focus on not slipping. The footing was bad enough that if the marsh wouldn't have been almost completely dry, I would have just skipped it.

For some reason, the course starts from a church parking lot with signs indicating that it is for church use only. There's a smaller lot in the actual park, between 15 and 16. For what seems like a course with a lot of investment in infrastructure, I don't know why it would start from a seemingly sketchy parking situation.

Other Thoughts:

This course was designed by John Houck. He's one of the most well known designers in disc golf and offers the total package of custom signage in addition to the design. Houck courses are known for a relatively high proportion of multi-throw holes, multiple routes on many holes (in some cases with totally separate fairways), and multiple tees and baskets setup to allow multiple skill levels a similar experience on each hole. Due to his high profile, his courses get plenty of love and hate. This was the first Houck course that I played and I enjoyed it. I don't think the land available allowed for a truly great course. Hole 13 is the only one that had anything approaching wow factor and I think that's more due to the bland stretch preceding it. Don't get me wrong, it's a pretty park, but it's not going to dazzle you.

For reference I played whites and the rest of the family played reds.

TLDR: a very good course, but not a destination
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DiscGolfCraig
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4.00 star(s)

Leisure is the mother of philosophy. 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Mar 7, 2020 Played the course:once

Pros:

Hobbs Farm is a destination course. When you're rushing through Atlanta to get to a park in the middle of nowhere, it shows your appeal and quality.
- You want to see the makings of an absolute bemouth of a course? Just try to survive the first four holes with reasonable scores. Holes #2 & 4 are absolute beasts at 994 and 826 feet, respectively. This after getting to warm up on the 660-foot first hole, then catching your breath on the uphill, 270-foot third.
- #2 is the type of hole legends are made of. Idlewild has a hole of this quality; WR Jackson has a killer hole; and perhaps most comparable is Charlotte's Nevin #12. You start in an open field, throwing downhill. From there, you still have multiple shots into the woods and to the basket. I was content with my bogey 6. I guarantee I will never birdie this hole save for a hole-out from the fairway.
- #4 features the best aspects of the entire course into one hole. Long, dogleg right that starts uphill with the tee shot, plays downhill once you make the bend, then plays to a basket across a creek. The fairways are plenty wide with enough room to play around the trees that players can be aggressive with shots. Just don't go left into the rough as you approach the basket.
- Everything is relative, right? After the tough stretch to start the round, you get to #6, a 324-foot slight downhill hole. I normally approach holes like this thinking I've got an excellent chance to birdie this hole with a solid tee shot. Here, this hole seems like a pitch-and-putt shot, with me feeling I'm going to park this shot. A 10 to 15-foot birdie putt later, I was able to make up a stroke.
- #7 very well may be the second most daunting tee shot (after #17). There's tall, thick, lost-disc level of rough the entire right side of the fairway; however, you don't want to go too far left as that makes the approach shot up the hill more difficult. An excellent, station-to-station layout.
- #8 is an excellent risk/reward layout. A quick downhill, 291-foot par 3, with water coming into play for discs that sail long. A conservative tee shot should yield an easy par 3. An aggressive tee shot brings either birdie or bogey (or worse) into play. For someone like me, you're happy with the easy par 3 and will save the aggressiveness for later in the round.
- #17's tee shot is the lasting image for players. After #8, there's a long boardwalk over the water to the back portion of the course. Off that boardwalk are the tees (long & short) for #7. There's more than enough room for a full run-up. If you can throw straight, it's a rather simple par 3. Still, this goes down as one of the most scenic tee shots I've experienced, right up there with some of the top of the world shots at NC mountain courses.
- The final hole to point out is the peninsula water hole - #13. You're protected from the wind as you tee off in the woods. As soon as the disc gets over the water, (at least the day I played) you're at the mercy of winds whipping off the water. I watched my disc get caught up and sail off-line and splash down. The added challenge is that the peninsula doesn't have much depth to it. A shot sailing 25 feet longer than you intend, or one coming in heavy & taking a big skip, may end up in the water. I suspect there's some plastic in those waters.
- Tee signs are top of the line. Playing the course blind, I was able to rely on the tee signs for their accuracy versus having to take long walks down fairways to spot baskets, angles of doglegs, etc. Add to that the tee pads are excellent too.
- Course is surprisingly isolated from the rest of the park activities. The closest the course comes to interfering with other park activities is the path running along the right side of #9's fairway. I had to stop for a grand total of 30 seconds the entire round waiting for walkers.

Cons:

Crossing the boardwalk after #8, I was buying this course's hype. An elite level of holes had been played. Then, the course hits a stretch of open/field holes and take a dramatic step down.
- #10, 11, 15 & 18 are field holes. #10 offers a birdie chance as it's only 333 feet. The others are 500 feet plus, with only the uphill tee shot on #18 offering variety. From this stretch of holes, the most memorable part is the large tree by #11's tee and the partial ladder leading up it.
- #12 & 16 are wooded, but they're straight ahead, not-difficult layouts. I've already mentioned the ease of #17 as well.
- #13 is easily the best hole on the back nine, but that's a far cry from the level of holes #2, 4 & 7 on the front 9. Don't get me wrong. You've got to be a far better player than me to be getting birdie chances on these holes. I was getting one easy par after another without facing the risk of a bad score.
- Prepare for a lot of walking and some long transitions. The short tees are 3400 feet shorter than the longs. I can't imagine walking an extra 2/3 of a mile and not throwing. If you're here and you're going to be doing lots of walking, you might as well throw discs during that walk.
- Not a con, but an observation. This course is not beginner friendly. Bad rounds and bad experiences are the faults of underqualified players, not from the course's quality. Don't make the long drive (I'm assuming most readers of this aren't from Carrollton proper) and not be prepared for a tough course.
- A second observation. My first impression of the course was that of a letdown. Pulling into the compound and I notice the parking lot is on the backside of a church. My first thought, 'wait, don't tell me this is a church course and/or it's a shared space.' I don't know how the church services impact the course on Sunday mornings or during other service times.

Other Thoughts:

Hobbs Farm is an excellent course, no doubt about it. It's easily in the top 5 - 10% of the 300+ courses I've played. In terms of challenge, it's probably higher than that.
- That said, at its lofty 4.6something rating, it is overrated. Just in Georgia, WR Jackson and Steady Ed at the IDGC are both better quality courses. That said, if you are in the same conversation as those courses, you have a fantastic course.
- Bring your patience and lots to drink. This course is a grind. As fast as I play, it still took me nearly 90 minutes. Groups are going to be looking at 3 to 4 hour rounds so sit back and enjoy yourself.
- I hate how the finishing holes of some courses basically seem like they're built simply to get you back to the parking lot. It's as if course designers are backed into a corner and must design a layout with what's left of the land. That's what I felt was the situation with #18. There's plenty of room to be creative with the space for holes #1 through 17, and then suddenly, it's time to be straightforward and create something that leads players back to the beginning.
- I made this a destination course as a part of 37-hour, four state, 10-course trip. I left Charlotte at 3:45 on a Saturday morning and teed off at Hobbs by 8:15 on a crisp March morning. I'd gladly do the trip again just to play here again.
- The course's best holes compare with any course's best holes I've played. If you matched the top handful of holes here to other elite courses I've played (Idlewild, Harmon, WR Jackson, Panther Creek State Park), Hobbs Farm is right there with them. Once you get past that initial 6 - 8 holes, there's a separation from the quality of those courses to what's here. And that's why I'll rank this course a tad lower than those.
- All that said, this is a no-doubt must play. During the Covid-19 (I'm dating my review right here), I've seen on local club FB pages how many people don't even travel out of their own city to play courses. What a shame. If you're within several hours of this course, it's worth the drive.
- There are a few too many bland holes for this to be consider one of the elite. You'll notice a pattern that everyone talks about 2-7, 13, and 17....BUT, there isn't much love given to the other 10 holes. That's a glaring weakness.
- Whether you like my review or not, just remember that words are the money of fools (Hobbes).
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DiSCRoCKeR
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Experience: 24 years 204 played 45 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Another Houck Gem 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 15, 2016 Played the course:once

Pros:

-Huge fun factor at this course!
-Multiple tees and benches on every hole (usually 3) with wide-back pads.
-Excellent signage at every tee pad and next tee markers directing the way to each tee for the next hole.
-Plenty of hole variety and elevation changes. Most of the holes are wooded with defined fairways and there a couple of open holes with new trees planted to help shape them up as the years go by. Several water hazards come in to play, although when I played the course most of the creek beds were dried up. There are flags defining the OB for these spots as well.
-Multiple options off the tee with a lot of thought put in to the risk/reward factor.
-Brooms at every hole to help keep the pads clear.
-Legit par 4 and 5 holes.
-This course is suitable for all skill levels.
-The course is nicely manicured and the wooded holes are mostly free of ground cover, so losing a disc shouldn't be much of an issue.

Cons:

-Most baskets are blind off the tee.
-No garbage cans on the course except near hole 1 and the restrooms near hole 16.
-No alternate pin placements.
-Prodigy baskets, but that is just a personal opinion.
-The pads for some of the tees feel a little short for some of the long bomber holes

Other Thoughts:

This course is one of the funnest courses I have played in the southeast. Other than having to find the baskets on most of the holes, I had no trouble navigating the course with all of the next tee signs. The residents of Carrollton should be very proud of having this as their home course. I can't wait to play here again the next time I am in Georgia!
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