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Indian Camp Creek Park

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Tyler V
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Premium Member
Experience: 17.4 years 163 played 112 reviews
3.50 star(s)

A Fun, Secluded Course In The Prairie 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Feb 27, 2021 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Indian Camp Creek (know by locals as ICC) is a mostly open 18-hole course located in the northwest corner of St. Charles County, putting it on the outer edge of the St. Louis region. This is one of 3 18-hole courses in and overseen by St. Charles County Parks, and has a polished design that can offer a fun round to a variety of skill levels.

ICC's location is right off of Highway 61, about 7-8 minutes north of the I-64/I70 junction, making the park very accessible from that direction. If your GPS has you come from the other direction, be wary, as the directions may take you into a nearby subdivision; that happened to me my first time going to ICC, and the subdivision even has signs at the entrance of their road saying "This is not Indian Camp Creek Park". I highly recommend coming from HWY 61- the convenience is worth it. There are no gas stations or restaurants near the park, but there are plenty further up the highway from either direction if you need snacks or drinks.
Note that the course is very deep into the park once you arrive. After a couple of minutes driving on the 2-lane road, you will enter a loop road that's one way. From here, it's about a 5-minute drive to the course itself. Just keep going, and parking will eventually be on the right for the course. When you notice a silo structure and a tall chimney to your left, the parking lot you want will be the next one on the right.

In terms of park amenities, saying ICC offers a lot might honestly sell the park short. The park is just over 600 acres, and offers plenty to park goers throughout that land, including camping, fishing, 8 reservable shelters, playgrounds, and a group camping area great for larger groups. The park also has 10 miles of multi-use trails for hiking, biking, and even equestrian use. As you drive through the park, you will see different parking areas for different uses, giving park goers plenty of land to enjoy. This includes the disc golf course, as the course never intrudes on other park activities. The park also has bathrooms throughout, including one next to the parking lot for the disc golf course.

The course equipment at ICC is top notch. Next to the parking lot, you will find a course bulletin board and a practice basket that offers a large amount of space to practice putts from. The bulletin board typically has scorecards available. Just across the road, you will find hole 1 along with the rest of the course. Each hole includes 2 grippy concrete tee pads, a tee sign for each pad, and 3 pin placements on each hole. Each tee sign is complete with a graphic of the hole layout, locations for all 3 pins, which pin is in use, distances, and the direction of the next hole. It's nice to have 2 signs that each show the distances to the pin from that specific tee. The baskets are Mach 3s, and are in great shape after 8 years of use so far. They are also powder coated orange, and stand out very well. The colored baskets throughout the St. Charles County Parks courses is one of my favorite things about each of the 18 holes; it would be nice to see more courses go this route when they are able to.

The course design has a ball golf vibe to it on a large percentage of the course. ICC's defining design feature is open mowed fairways surrounded by natural prairie grass OB. 15 holes on the course have at least 1 side mostly lined by prairie grass, and many of the holes are fairly open with a small number of trees serving as obstacles in the fairway or guardians to pin placements. While many holes have limited trees, elevation helps provide more variety on the course. 14 is a fairly open hole, but plays significantly uphill for added challenge to drives. On the other end of things, 11 plays significantly downhill, requiring intentional drives to make sure you stay in bounds. Some open holes have better obstacles than others, with hole 4, 10, 16, and 17 coming to mind as ones that require careful placement of drives and/or approaches.

The course also has 3 wooded holes, which all play short but provide challenging placements. 13 is probably the biggest birdie opportunity on course but can punish errant drives. Hole 7 is also short, but has challenging placements including an elevated pin on a tree stump. Overall, the course is very open as long as you stay on fairways, with elevation changes playing a big factor in providing variety in how the course plays. The fairways throughout the course are tight enough where you need to think before you throw, as any disc that lands in the prairie grass is OB and can be hard to find when the grass is at its thickest. The parks department does a great job of maintaining the fairways, and also included clear paths between holes, as well as an occasional path back to the parking lot from different parts of the course. As a whole, navigation is pretty easy at ICC

The course difficulty at ICC comfortably covers a wide variety of skill levels. Newer players will find some nice challenge from the short tees, as this course can provide great practice with drive placement. Intermediate players will likely be able to shoot low 50s from the short tees, with the long tees providing more challenge in terms of distance.

Course highlights for me would have to be Holes 1, 11, and 18. Hole 1 is wide open, but makes for a fun opening hole to ease into the round. 11 is straight downhill for up to 480 feet, and is a a great opportunity to rip a drive for max distance into the green. 18 is also a great downhill hole with 2 pins guarded inside the tree line, providing a fun hyzer drive opportunity for RHBH throwers to end a round.

Cons:

ICC's course design mostly has one particular vibe to it with the open fairways, and it fulfills that vibe very well. That being said, despite having 3 holes with a more wooded focus, the course can feel repetitive. The elevation changes help to a degree, but as a whole, you can get away with a limited variety of shots at ICC. As a RHBH dominant player, I never felt uncomfortable with a backhand shot on course, with hole 15 being the one time I thought about a forehand drive. The open shots are fun, but if you're looking for variety between open and tight fairways, this probably won't be your favorite course. Hole 5 is the first hole where the opening drive felt different from the previous hole, with hole 6 providing the first genuine change of pace during a round here.

The tee pad locations add to this downside. Some courses that provide multiple tees have tee placements that add a lot of variety, whether that be distance changes, the angle of shots from different tees, or elevation. At ICC, the only difference between the two tee pad locations for the most part is distance, with the long tee being placed behind and in line with the short tee. Some holes, like 9 and 16, genuinely provide an added challenge or different shot requirement other than distance, but for most of the holes at ICC, my shot or drive doesn't change much from one tee to the other.

I think most of the pin placements are okay for newer players, but keep in mind that some pins top 450-500ft, which can be daunting if you don't have much distance behind your drive yet.

Given how open the course is, the lack of shade can be a factor in how comfortable playing here. St. Louis summers don't play around, and you'll be wanting more shade than this course provides in July and August. Play your summer rounds earlier in the day!

Some folks will not like the prairie grass on the course playing such a large role. I personally do not mind it, and appreciate it from an environmental standpoint. That being said, it can get very thick when it's fully in season, making disc finding challenging if you aren't 100% sure where you drive landed. If you aren't a fan of prairie grass, this course will not be your cup of tea.

Other Thoughts:

Overall, Indian Camp Creek is a very fun course that disc golfers of many skill levels can enjoy. The openness of the course makes for a fun, fairly stress-free round; the lack of variety in shot requirements and hole design is the main thing that keeps me from rating the course higher. That being said, this course still provides a lot of fun, and is a strong addition to the St. Charles Parks Department, and St. Louis disc golf as a whole. Tim Wiegard did a great job with the course design and it's use of the open land.

If you want to make a day of disc golfing, Quail Ridge is just down the highway and provides a great wooded golf experience to compliment ICC's openness. If you have the time and stamina, you can add New Melle for the St. Charles 18 trifecta, as it's just down the road from Quail Ridge.

If you would like more information on Indian Camp Creek or any of the other St. Charles County Courses, check out the St. Charles County Disc Golf Club on Facebook. They hold several tournaments and leagues throughout the year, and are a great resource for information and help out a lot with upkeep for all of the courses in their area.

Smokin' Aces is a pro shop that is also within 10 minutes of ICC, just off of the I-64/I-70 junction. They have a great selection of discs, bags, carts, and other accessories. They're worth checking out and giving some love to, especially if you lose a disc in the prairie on your round.

If you live in the area, make sure to add ICC to your wish list, as it's a great course secluded in an expansive park that feels miles away from civilization. Any nature lover will love the setting of this course, and will likely enjoy this park as a whole in addition to the disc golf course itself. For golfers visiting the area, I'd recommend New Melle and Quail Ridge first when it comes to St. Charles area courses, and others if you're closer to St. Louis proper. That being said, if this is the weakest 18 course in your parks department, you're certainly doing something right.
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mward2257
Experience: 3 played 1 reviews
4.00 star(s)

solid quick but semi-challenging course for beginners 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 21, 2020 Played the course:once

Pros:

Seemed to be short when it comes to the distance the course travelled, but not so short that the holes were easy and boring. Hope mine kind of comes back near the parking lot but it\'s still probably about a 100-200 meter walk. Bright orange baskets are something I wish more courses would do because these stick out like a sore thumb in the woods.

Cons:

First 3-4 holes feel very similar, prairies make it a little difficult to find discs in.
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mrbro855
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 11 years 391 played 106 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Nice course out in the suburbs 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 20, 2016 Played the course:once

Pros:

The usual: dual concrete tee pads, multiple pin placements- all marked on the excellent signage. Benches at every hole- courtesy of an Eagle Scout project.
Great blend of open holes, wooded holes and some in between. Good use of elevation.
Very easy to get from hole to hole as paths are mowed to direct traffic.
Couple of holes come to mind:
#6 real short, but tough dog leg left.
#15- far pin placement tucked to right side buried in the trees.

Cons:

I'll echo other reviewers here: don't care for the long grass along most of the fairways. I guess for "championship caliber" it lends to narrower fairways with the grass as OB, but for a middling player like me, I prefer to play it where it lies. That's really the only con to the course in my book.

Other Thoughts:

This was course #100 for me, played it with my 17 y/o son on a 90+ degree day in St Louis!!! That said, I enjoyed it about as much as I could given the heat!
Would definitely welcome a return visit.... As listed in the pros... couple of holes stuck out, most of the rest were not memorable. Overall rating is about right, I couldn't give it a 4, but enough did to balance it where it needs to be at 3.75.
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SirDreward
Experience: 15.2 years 38 played 23 reviews
3.50 star(s)

A Good Course That Needs Just A Little More Work 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 20, 2015 Played the course:once

Pros:

1 - Nicely defined fairways.
2 - Nice little surprise on one hole!
3 - Fairly good layout and well marked.
4 - Area of park the course is in is dedicated to the course.
5 - Benches at every tee.
6 - Nice park overall.

Cons:

1 - Most of the basket numbers are facing the wrong way.
2 - Rough can get pretty rough.
3 - Most baskets are installed too low.
4 - Pretty repetitive.

Other Thoughts:

My feeling is that minus three or four holes this course is geared toward distance players. Also most of the course is wide open, so I could see wind being a big factor.
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BogeyNoMore
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Premium Member
Experience: 20.4 years 512 played 183 reviews
4.00 star(s)

The Crik 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 19, 2014 Played the course:once

Pros:

Ball type course in a large, county park offering lots of activities and amenities.
• Disc Play: Great overall, with a nice mix of open and wooded shots that work pretty much your entire arsenal over 18 holes. Challenging without being exceedingly so, the ICC features several holes that are open to semi open off the tee, playing to fairways that get pretty well wooded as they near the green. Several pin placements that are well-guarded or nicely tucked away. Elevation is substantial and well-utilized throughout. Some fairways have large changes from tee to green, while others are more subtle but still have enough net change to make holes plays longer or shorter. Some pins placed on or near slopes or steep drop-offs make you think twice about running the basket. Distances range from short to long, complimenting a nice array of fairway shapes - will have you throwing discs of all stabilities and speeds.
• Dual tees and multiple pin locations only enhance a solid design.
• Several holes favor distance over placement, but that's certainly not the case for the entire course, nor did I think it was decidedly so - you still need to place long tee shots well to set up the next shot, as well as hit the fairways or take the stroke for going OB. You can score well if you're only capable of 300 ft drives, but if you can keep it in the fairway from for 350 - 400 ft, you might get some birdie looks noodle arms won't.
• Equipment: Excellent! Nice sized, grippy concrete tees for shorts and longs, with quality signage at all tees. Orange powder coated DGA's pop out in the distance. Scorecards w/good map.
• Routing/Nav: Flows well from hole to hole, and the nice signs are easy to spot if you look around. The map should help you out with any trouble spots.
• Aesthetics: Somewhere between park style and that away from it all feel. Nice treatment of tees dresses them up and retains soil around the tees to combat erosion. Very nice course on the whole.
• This section of the park seems dedicated to the course - not likely you'll run into many non-players.
• Excellent course for tournament play.

Cons:

Things are pretty good if these are my complaints:
• Quite a few holes feel similar off the tee.
• Hole #'s on baskets facing the wrong way - hopefully, they get it right when they rotate placements. Judging from some of the other reviews, seems it's been an issue for the past 10 months or so... either that, or the person moving the baskets ain't the sharpest tool in the shed.
• Park road goes one direction, and the drive to the course at the posted speed feels like watching paint dry.

Other Thoughts:

If you're an avid player, you'll love playing here. Pairs very well with Quail Ridge for a great day's discing: they have decidedly different personalities and feel completely different.

Wind is likely to be a big factor during your round. Seems to swirl and change direction with no rhyme or reason. Watching someone else's shot may not help at all as the wind seems to literally change from player to player - that's what our group experienced.

Not a fan of tall, prairie grass lining holes - doesn't really change your shot, and makes finding discs very difficult. Normally, I'd consider it a con, but at ICC, holes flanked with tall grass, the grass is defined as OB, forcing you hold the fairway on long drives, so it's definitely a factor in play. It was wonderfully trimmed for my round, but I can't say what it's like on an ongoing basis, so I can't really say it's a con, so I'll mention it here. That said, if you happen to catch it when it's high, just before they mow, I can see it being a major pain, but it clearly defines the fairway... which after all, is where you're supposed to put your disc.
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Broll
Experience: 10 played 10 reviews
2.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 10, 2013 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

very nice park has a lot of other things to do after you lose all of your disc in the hip high grass. there could be so much more to this course if the mow the grass at different levels and put some kind of shape to the fairways

Cons:

everyhole seems to repeat itself. change the elevation of the grass and give it some kind of shape!
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TheSinator
Experience: 14.6 years 28 played 18 reviews
4.00 star(s)

First class maintenance 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jul 19, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

Every hole has 2 tees and 3 pin placements. The signs are first-rate, showing pin placement, tree location, distances from each tee to each pin, which pin placement the pin is in that day, AND direction to next hole. It's so nice--it really adds to the experience.

Another thing I like is that the course makes good use of its elevation. Also, there are regular benches and/or picnic tables, which are smartly placed in the shade. I like hole #8, with the pin on top of the stump.

Many of the alternate tees are quite cleverly placed so that they add not only length to the tee shot, but require navigation around trees close to the tee. Very fun.

Cons:

The grass in rough is super high (2-4 ft) and makes it very easy to lose a disc. Use a spotter or prepare to lose a disc or two.

Some of the holes hide the pins in the trees, which is cool, but too many holes have a pin either right in the middle of the fairway or buried in a thicket of trees. I think the best way to do would be to have the pins near a couple trees--enough to add a challenge, but not so much that it's impossible to make 20 ft putts because there is no clear line to the pin.

Other Thoughts:

Thank you so much to the volunteers (designers, boy scout and/or eagle scout troop) who put considerable time into this course. It looks incredible. Wow.

After playing this course 2 years after my initial review, I've changed my score from 4.5 to 4. The signage is incredible and the options given by the multiple tees and pins (plus the tight windows that come with the back tees) is really cool, but the OB grass is so high and it's just so easy to lose a disc I've got to drop it to a 4.0. It's still one of my favorite courses I've played, though.
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Golden Tuna
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 23.6 years 211 played 31 reviews
3.50 star(s)

ICC 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 7, 2013 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Wide open, beautiful prairie land with lots of challenging out of bounds. The parks department has done a great job installing and maintaining the course, including placing large boulders around tee pads, bridges, adding water holes and drainage, walking paths and continuing to plant more trees for shade/obstacles. There are both Pro & Am tee pads with 3 pin locations for each hole along with attractive, informative tee signs that include "Next Hole" information. The reclaimed cedar tee posts are an aesthetic plus.

Cons:

There are quite a few nickel plates that are not visible from the fairway because the baskets were installed backwards. Also, once you finish the hole there are a few places where it is difficult to know which direction to go next. That said, a new player could find their way through this course relatively easily without assistance.

Other Thoughts:

Though this course was just installed in 2013 it has the fit and finish of a course that has been in the ground for 5-10 years. Bathrooms, signage, kiosk, parking lot and practice basket are nice.
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schimmy
Experience: 17.6 years 154 played 4 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Keep it in the fairway 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 30, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

This course is beautiful. There are some great rolling hills, tall grass, and a good mix of long/short and woods/open holes. The park itself is huge and we never once ran into other park goers on the course.

The baskets are bright orange DGA Mach III's and they catch really well. The color really stands out and is easy to spot.

Every hole has 2 concrete teepads with its own teesign. A lot of these also have trash cans and benches.

There are 3 pin locations on each of the holes. They range from very easy to very challenging.

The course is also easy to navigate. There were only 2 instances where we got mixed up on where to go but we found our way.

Cons:

The only water spicket I saw was near the practice basket.

Course does not make a perfect loop. Hole 11 tee is near the car if someone needs to run back, but they would run right by 1's basket.

Parking will probably be an issue when there is a tournament going on.

It is a very long drive through the park to reach the disc golf course.

A lot of the number plates were facing the wrong direction.

Other Thoughts:

This is a great course and will definitely get better once more people get out there and knock down some of the weeds and tall grass.
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scootertrash
Experience: 19.4 years 18 played 4 reviews
4.00 star(s)

The Creek! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 20, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

Great layout nice and wide open but very challenging with the long grass out of bounds areas that define the fairways. Also the Tsigns are top notch and very easy to know what the distance and pin placement are with both Tpads.

Cons:

None at this time!

Other Thoughts:

Birdman101s review was spot on! The long grass out of bounds can make for a long day of looking for your disk if you make a miss shot!

The one thing I will say and this is no fault of the Park or the design of the course is the BUGS! I doused my self with bug spray and was still bombarded in my ears and mouth the whole round. It was so bad at one point I almost quit playing because it was getting very hard to focus! When I play this again I am putting in ear plugs!
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birdman101
Experience: 15.2 years 59 played 24 reviews
3.50 star(s)

the creek 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jun 19, 2013 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

This course didn't go in until everything was ready for it.
It went in with 2 sets of concrete teepads, and 3 pin placements on each hole, and benches and trashcans ready to be put in. As well as some top notch tee signs at both tees on every hole.

The tee signs have a diagram of the hole that seems pretty accurate, and there is the usual bolt system to denote which location the basket is in.

Seems to be in an area of the park that is only really used for disc golf.

The multiple tees and pads will make it fun for both the newbie as well as the experienced pro, and allow for a change of pace if you play the course all the time.

The DGA baskets are bright orange and almost impossible to not see.

There is a kiosk and practice basket by the parking lot. The kiosk has scorecards (currently just quail ridge cards hopefully that changes), and a giant map of the course.

When playing the course as intended with the tall grass as OB it can be somewhat difficult. There are some elevation changes, but nothing to extreme.

The wooded holes add some change to the wide openness of the majority of holes.

Course flows pretty well, but next tee arrows near the baskets would be a nice improvement

Cons:

The area around the practice basket is kind of tight, and could be over crowded really easily.

If the entire course is set up short it seems like it is just a bunch of straight/ hyzer shots unless you really want to throw some other shot. Hopefully some variety is added by moving some of the pin locations in the near future.

Other Thoughts:

The prairie grass is pretty thick and can make finding a disc difficult. Spent a decent amount of time searching for a few miss throws.

There seemed to be tons of poison ivy and ticks when you got off the beaten path.

It is a long drive to the back of the park to get to the disc golf course.

Everything was set up in the A and B position due to the inaugural tournament and an attempt by the parks dept. to get new people into the game.

I will update this once i play the course a few more times and add some thoughts on the longer placements.
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Brokensaint
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 17 years 344 played 31 reviews
4.00 star(s)

St. Charles' Newest Course, The Creek 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Jun 16, 2013 Played the course:once

Pros:

Indian Camp Creek enjoyed its inaugural event this Father's Day weekend. A sprawling 18 hole course that has a definite "ball-golf" feel to its layout, this is an intermediate to advanced level course that requires both distance (potentially substantial distance, depending upon pin placement) and accuracy to remain sane. The majority of holes are what you might call field holes, but not quite, as they run up and down rolling elevation changes and are hemmed in by 3 feet tall prairie grass OB pretty much everywhere. Errant throws are swallowed by the tall grass, much to the consternation of the thrower. Keep your eye on it!
There are a few partially wooded holes, notably hole 7 with its elevated pin mounted in a tall tree stump.
Every hole has a concrete red and a blue tee, surrounded by mulch and landscaped beautifully. There are benches and trash cans everywhere.
The tee signs are well-done, plainly delineating the OB, the 3 possible pin placements with distances and a bolt showing which placement is current.
The park itself, a multi use family park that had a good number of users throughout yesterday, has several restrooms throughout, which is awesome. Even better, the disc golf area seems to be mostly removed from the rest, making it DG specific.

Cons:

None really to speak of.

Other Thoughts:

ICC is the newest addition to the St. Charles County family of courses, and a great one. As this course matures, it will only get better. Great job and thanks to the St. Charles club for all of the work it took to make this a reality!
We have The Wood (Lindenwood), The Ridge (Quail Ridge), The Ranch (El Shaddai) and now the Crik (ICC). That's worth a road trip!
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Gflap
Silver level trusted reviewer
Experience: 21.2 years 423 played 33 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Chuckin' at the Crik 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jun 15, 2013 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Course is located in a beautiful sprawling county park of 603 acres. Course area is predominantly for disc golf only however course does come close to trails for walkers, bikers and horseback riders. 2 sets of concrete teepads of regulation size. 3 pin placements for every hole. Awesome orange coated DGA baskets for easy viewing with all backgrounds of woods and fields. Some nice landscaping around teepads. Moderate elevation changes throughout. Mix of open and wooded holes. Well defined fairways. Tee signs are among the best I have ever seen with diagrams and bolts indicating current pin placements. Nice benches at most holes provided by local Eagle Scouts. 4 picnic tables located at some teepads.

Cons:

Not many cons except this course may be too challenging for beginners when pin placements are set in longer positions. Wind may be another factor when trying to land in the fairway on some holes as the rough is 3 feet high in places. Long slow drive of 2 miles going at speed of 15 mph from entrance of park to the actual disc golf course.

Other Thoughts:

This is a brand new course that is designed to resemble the look of a ball golf course. The inaugaural event was held this past weekend with most pin placements set at shorts and midrange placements. 18 hole scores ranged anywhere between 48 and 83 with OB attributing to the higher scores. Thanks to the ST Charles County Parks and the St Charles County Disc Golf Club for providing this excellent course.
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