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New Rit Formula = No Dying Discs

I'm sure disc dyers are a small portion of their clientele but I'm sure it will drop a bit, especially if the larger companies like Huklab LSD and DD use and now have to change sources..
 
I'm sure disc dyers are a small portion of their clientele but I'm sure it will drop a bit, especially if the larger companies like Huklab LSD and DD use and now have to change sources..

I'd never even heard of people buying and using Rit Dye before disc golf lol. It would be interesting to see their sales.
 
just picked up 14 boxes numbered 07-10

what colors?

I know when I ordered the batch of neon and added the aquamarine.. from the factory it was still an 06 run and old packaging on the aquamarine.. the industrial stuff just had a sticker with the color, no batch info
 
This information of formula change started out on FB, in a wall post I made to them (they first denied that there was any change). The conversation has moved to a wall post Trozzle made on thier page. The more dyers they hear from, the better off we may be. They are quite aware of this market, they were previously unaware of.

I believe thier 'availiability of some substances' really means cost of substances. Substances don't just dissapear from earth. With a little prodding, nudging, and luck MAYBE Rit could start producing dye specifically for polycarbs. If they don't... someone else will.
 
I gave my opinion on trozzle's post.. be interesting to hear what they say, until then, time to go hit up a couple more walmarts.. I think I just need more fuschia and black @ this point, maybe if they have any scarlet.. hmmm
 
my michaels and joanns don't have anything earlier than xxx10, and most of it is pretty late 10. I did pick up a couple 04710 scarlets and 17510 blacks that are supposed to be good
 
It will definately be interesting for them to see the boost because of the hoarding and then flat line. Im still working my way into this whole dyeing thing but this really sucks. It looks like I chose a bad time to start.
 
From Facebook:
Rit Dye wrote: "Hi all, Here's some clarification on the new Rit formulas. As previously posted on an earlier thread, some Rit colors have been reformulated and not working on polycarbonates like golf discs. Right now, all the Rit liquid dyes are now packaged with this new formula. The powder dyes are being converted gradually to this new formula. Colors that have been converted are: Royal Blue, Petal Pink, Fuchsia, Cherry Red, and Pearl Grey" I got word today from the technical crew that the lot numbers will NOT be an accurate enough indicator of finding the older formula that works with polycarbonates. The new formula is being marked "ND" on the packaging. So "non-ND" marked packaging is what you are looking for. Also, when ordering directly from Rit online, you can leave a note on the order that you are dyeing plastics and require the old formula. We can ensure that you receive the old powder formula as long as supplies lasts. The exception is that Royal Blue, Petal Pink, Fuchsia, Cherry Red, and Pearl Grey cannot be made into the old formula. The liquid, of course, is not available in the old formula. I will gather up all your comments and concerns and will forward them on to Rit HQ and see what they can do to accommodate having a workable dye for your needs for the future. I'm not sure what is possible but we sure don't want to lose you. Will have more info as it comes in and will be posting officially on the Rit blog as well."
 
Rit just replied again:

Rit Dye said:
Hi all, Forgive the double posting but want to make sure everyone gets this info. Here's some clarification on the new Rit formulas. As previously posted on an earlier thread, some Rit colors have been reformulated and not working on polycarbonates like golf discs. Right now, all the Rit liquid dyes are now packaged with this new formula. The powder dyes are being converted gradually to this new formula. Colors that have been converted are: Royal Blue, Petal Pink, Fuchsia, Cherry Red, and Pearl Grey" I got word today from the technical crew that the lot numbers will NOT be an accurate enough indicator of finding the older formula that works with polycarbonates. The new formula is being marked "ND" on the packaging. So "non-ND" marked packaging is what you are looking for. Also, when ordering directly from Rit online, you can leave a note on the order that you are dyeing plastics and require the old formula. We can ensure that you receive the old powder formula as long as supplies lasts. The exception is that Royal Blue, Petal Pink, Fuchsia, Cherry Red, and Pearl Grey cannot be made into the old formula. The liquid, of course, is not available in the old formula. I will gather up all your comments and concerns and will forward them on to Rit HQ and see what they can do to accommodate having a workable dye for your needs for the future. I'm not sure what is possible but we sure don't want to lose you. Will have more info as it comes in and will be posting officially on the Rit blog as well.

4 minutes ago

hahaha Fishy! you win

I also just emailed them inquiring to the future of the formula.
 
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It will definately be interesting for them to see the boost because of the hoarding and then flat line. Im still working my way into this whole dyeing thing but this really sucks. It looks like I chose a bad time to start.

Same here.
 
I have used slightly more than 1 box total in several months, actually might have screwed myself at one point by adding some crappy liquid in, but rectified it by adding good. I add water after a bit, and add more dye, but it's still my original container. I only mix up half batches for the most part with my colors. I don't need that much more to float a disc on.
 
Tried the acid dye with no luck, the only thing it dyed was the white discraft stamp :). Never did get the temp past 170 tho so it may not be a fair trial. This was Jacquard Acid Dye, purple.
 
Just got this email:


PhoenixBrands to me
show details 12:23 PM (37 minutes ago)

These formula changes are permanent at this time. It is due to lack of availability and not cost. We apologize for any inconvenience.

Thank you for contacting us.

Sincerely,
Phoenix Brands

At least they are going to mark the new stuff with ND, or whatever.
 
Problem is, they have released ND without the ND marking. When I get my chance to hoard, I'm going by lot #'s. The worst part is, Pearl Grey... our best marbling color.
 
Black xxx11 doesn't hold a dye hardly at all, if you do it like 25 times (no exaggeration) you can get a very faint dye.

Wine xxx10 works great.
 
Batch Number Clarification: The first three numbers of the batch are the day of the year it was produced, and the last two are the year, so 17510 is the 175th day of 2010.
Rit told me to look for boxes up to early 2010.

kcoates were both of those liquid?
 
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