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    40 or over? Join the Divisional Tour Newsgroup

    to DavidSauls: Exactly. to brian j: I do have a Facebook account, but I rarely access it.
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    40 or over? Join the Divisional Tour Newsgroup

    to DiscFifty: Yes, PDGA-sanctioned events. This often surprises members who think of me as PDGA critic. My main criticism of the PDGA is simple. Tournament directors, Amateurs and older Pros provide the overwhelming majority of money and services to the PDGA, but the PDGA has a tendency to...
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    40 or over? Join the Divisional Tour Newsgroup

    to Teemkey: Certainly the focus is on Pros, and the events that they would prefer. Amateur concerns are so different, and I can't cover all the bases. I've been a Pro for over 20 years, and probably wouldn't do a good job with the Ams. Still, I have noticed that about 25% of our members are...
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    40 or over? Join the Divisional Tour Newsgroup

    Consider these six statements: 1) You will be 40 or older in 2016. 2) You would much rather play disc golf competitively than watch somebody else play it. 3) You enjoy a challenge, and don't want to be babied. 4) You wish that your division was as well treated as any other Pro division 5) You...
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    Older players

    to IVER: I've had three arthros on the plant knee, but I don't restrict on the runup. Get a good personal trainer and work hard on squats, lunges, leg curls and everything that strengthens the knee. Give glucosamine/chondroitin a try. If that doesn't help, get it replaced. I've seen lots of...
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    Older players

    to IVER: Play in the Gentlemens' Club Classic (Feb 26-28 in Henderson near Las Vegas). There will be a field of Legends from all over the country, which is unusual. I will be there, and I'm 75 this July. I believe that you will be quite competitive, and you will certainly learn a lot about...
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    The Magical Disappearing Worlds

    to JC17393: The number of rounds has dropped from 8 to 5. That is a 40% decrease. You say one round was dropped because of "circumstances". There are always circumstances. Is it likely that they will go back to 6 next year? History, which is dominated by decreases, suggests otherwise...
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    The Magical Disappearing Worlds

    It seems that most respondents like the kinder, gentler format. And this is a self-corrective issue. Those who like it will be more likely to attend in the future, and those who don’t will seek other opportunities. In time, everybody who goes will appreciate its appeal. The reasons for...
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    The Magical Disappearing Worlds

    Now you see it, and now you don't. At Pro Worlds, as recently as 2004, most divisions had eight preliminary (before the semis) rounds over the period Tuesday-Friday. Then it went to seven (2003 and 2005), and for the last few years it has been six (or its equivalent). This year the schedule...
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    How to Choose a Senior-Friendly Pro Event

    to MikeK: Read post #81 again. I have not formally defined a Divisional Tour this year. I have made a series of general comments to help members find their own senior-friendly events. Except for the material that I have shared on this thread, those comments are for Newsgroup members only...
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    How to Choose a Senior-Friendly Pro Event

    to biscoe, chuck, BgWvDave and jc17393: That would be great. I hope that you are right.
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    How to Choose a Senior-Friendly Pro Event

    To MikeK: This year is different, in the sense that I haven’t defined a tour. Every other year I asked the newsgroup members to nominate events they thought were “senior-friendly”. Then I sent a questionnaire to the TD of the nominated events to look into the important details and chose the...
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    How to Choose a Senior-Friendly Pro Event

    to grodney: It’s funny how, after we choose to join in a member category that plays for money and pay a dues premium to do so, some people say we shouldn’t care about money. Maybe we don’t make our living playing disc golf, but many of us depend on winnings to offset tour expenses. Just like...
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    How to Choose a Senior-Friendly Pro Event

    To grodney: You asked a simple question. Why would anybody add cash to a protected division? Here’s the simple answer. For the same reason they would add cash to an Open division. To attract more players from that division. Of course that begs the question: Why would anybody want to...
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    How to Choose a Senior-Friendly Pro Event

    to Discette: Very thoughtful post. I too would like to see the results of a 40+ poll such as the one you describe. You asked me which payout table I personally would prefer, 40% or 50%. One of the premises of my newsgroup is that we would like to be treated as much as possible like all other...
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    How to Choose a Senior-Friendly Pro Event

    To David Sauls: The “tiered entry fee” question is often very confusing to people. About a quarter of the TD’s I have talked to about it did not realize the implications for the 40+ pros paying a lower entry fee – that those players would be allocated a similarly lower share (or none) of the...
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    How to Choose a Senior-Friendly Pro Event

    To Chuck and David Sauls: We have overlap. I totally agree with you that the TD’s should be the court of last resort, and that TD’s should not be constrained by the PDGA any more than they already are. Which brings us back to the first post in this thread, which is simply a list of tournament...
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    How to Choose a Senior-Friendly Pro Event

    Chuck: The vote I propose could be for Worlds, or it could be for general 40+ pro play. I'd prefer a vote on the general question, but am easy either way. You claimed that I am following an "anti-senior policy", because 40+ players really want a more amateur-like and less risky format. I...
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    How to Choose a Senior-Friendly Pro Event

    to ru4por: You are listed, at least at present, as an amateur. I would expect that every amateur would vote for a kinder, gentler format, with less risk and no concern about winning money, as those attributes characterize amateur play. I have no desire to challenge that preference -- it seems...
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    How to Choose a Senior-Friendly Pro Event

    to Chuck, ru4por and Steve West: Sorry, Chuck. I misinterpreted your comment. When you said “proportional”, you didn’t specify “to what”, and I wrongly assumed “to the number of players”. One of the explicit premises of our newsgroup is that “when we play, we would like to be treated as well...
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