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∆∆this was my source, I tried to locate something about it but got lazy LOL. I hope it isn't. I know it's always going to be niche but it would be nice to have them around forevermore.....
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Is it enough to just have mold minimalism, or should you try to minimize the total number of discs as well to be truly minimal?
Who cares what is "truly minimal"? What helps you play your best game? What helps you have more fun?
I quit carrying a bag of discs back in 2011. My initial motivation was to increase the fun factor but after a few months of using only a handful of discs, I realized I was playing significantly better golf. I suspect there are multiple factors to this improvement, but I feel the two largest factors are the simplification of decision making and the familiarity one gains when using the very same discs all the time.
You should carry how ever many discs and molds you want, but I firmly believe that less is more when it comes to the number of discs you use.
It's a fun thought experiment. If nobody cares about what is minimal, then why are we even talking about it on an online forum. It's about having discussion. There's 17 pages of responses in this one post alone about minimalism so I'm sure others find it interesting to discuss.
If you believe less is more when it comes to discs, then how can you also believe people should carry as many molds as they want. That statement disagrees with itself.
Personally, I agree with you that the core idea of minimalism is to reduce decision making while still having all shots covered. The more I think about it, the more I come to realize that to actually reduce decision making, minimizing molds is not enough. If I only carry Aviars, Rocs, Teebirds, and Destroyers; but I carry 4 Aviars, 6 Rocs, 5 Teebrids, and 7 destroyers, then am I really making my decision making easier? Probably not.
Who cares what is "truly minimal"? What helps you play your best game? What helps you have more fun?
I quit carrying a bag of discs back in 2011. My initial motivation was to increase the fun factor but after a few months of using only a handful of discs, I realized I was playing significantly better golf. I suspect there are multiple factors to this improvement, but I feel the two largest factors are the simplification of decision making and the familiarity one gains when using the very same discs all the time.
You should carry how ever many discs and molds you want, but I firmly believe that less is more when it comes to the number of discs you use.
It's a fun thought experiment. If nobody cares about what is minimal, then why are we even talking about it on an online forum. It's about having discussion. There's 17 pages of responses in this one post alone about minimalism so I'm sure others find it interesting to discuss.
If you believe less is more when it comes to discs, then how can you also believe people should carry as many molds as they want. That statement disagrees with itself.
Personally, I agree with you that the core idea of minimalism is to reduce decision making while still having all shots covered. The more I think about it, the more I come to realize that to actually reduce decision making, minimizing molds is not enough. If I only carry Aviars, Rocs, Teebirds, and Destroyers; but I carry 4 Aviars, 6 Rocs, 5 Teebrids, and 7 destroyers, then am I really making my decision making easier? Probably not.
OK - you got me. Asking "who cares" was a bit harsh. What I was meaning to say is who can really define "truly minimal"? Apparently you can carry over 20 discs and think that it's a minimal bag since there are only four molds. To me, minimal means you are only carrying what you really need. I can carry three discs and make them work for me to cover everything I need. Some folks need an OS putter, an US putter, OS mid, US mid, OS fairway..... you get the idea. So who's to define minimal? Just semantics? Well yeah, I guess so.
I think it's an interesting discussion too and I'm frequently amazed at it all. Check out the link in my signature for a social group I started about extreme minimalism. It's been a couple years since anyone has posted in it, but I check in regularly to see if anyone else wants to talk about using a handful of discs. (and thanks for the kind words Meillo)
Just because I believe playing with the fewest discs you can manage is what works best for me does not mean that's the best method for everyone. It's obvious most players don't agree with using only three or four discs. So I say carry whatever makes you play well and makes you happy. It's not a contradiction - it's just facing reality. True minimalism is obviously not for everyone. I've had plenty of players tell me they wish they could play with a handful of discs but they need the security of having "that" disc for "this" shot. I cannot deny there have been times I would have like to have a Firebird for some shot or another but I just take out my Sidewinder and make it work for what I need. It's forced me to manipulate my throws instead of "letting the disc do the work". Hey - different strokes for different folks. That's all I'm saying.
But when I see a guy pulling a cart full of discs around on a neighborhood pitch and putt course, it makes me laugh out loud.
I'm going to go ahead and define this to save time going forward.
6 discs or less is officially a minimalist bag.
Spread the word .
I'm on board with the theory that it's beneficial to simplify decision making and get really good with those discs.
Ah, boo! I can't be in the club?? Frowny biscuits.......
Nutsac for my minimalist bag. Its 8, but not heavy and I can fit a small towel in there also
Aviar
Firebird
Envy
Harp
Matrix
FD
Teebird
Destroyer
Sometimes switch in a Verdict depending on the course or wind
But isn't this thread more about a truly minimal bag with 5 discs or so?
So, how would you build a bag of 3-6 discs that could be used on any course and still give you a chance to throw close to your best?