JK Aviar - r-pro?

[doublej]

Saw a thread about KC vs JK Aviars and reminded me....in the 2010 Innova catalog the JK is listed as an r-pro disc. Anyone know if they are changing the plastic or what?

Here is the specific page:
http://www.innovadiscs.com/catalog10/web 6.pdf

Here is the entire cataloge (look for page #6):
http://www.innovadiscs.com/catalog10/web.pdf

 

[RoomTenONine]

The plastic on the JK Aviar-X has changed. It is now R-Pro. What a shame too, the old JK plastic was one of my favorites.

 

[elevated plastic]

ouch thats harsh news. Better get my trade on for some jk's as back ups.

 

[Lithicon]

It's terrible that people hate R-Pro plastic. :? It's so grippy! I can't stand stiff putters, they always blow through the chains.. I can't understand why anyone wouldn't want a grippy putter. R-Pro isn't so soft it's completely floppy.

I guess that everyone from back in the day that didn't have really soft plastics can't get away from what their use to. :lol:
I fucking love R-Pro plastic for putters. It's the best putting plastic!

 

[superdrive]

It's terrible that people like R-Pro plastic. :? It's so shitty! I can't stand floppy putters, they always blow.. I can't understand why anyone wouldn't want a not floppy putter. R-Pro is so soft it's completely floppy.

I guess that everyone from back in the day that didn't have really bad plastics can't get away from what their use to. :lol:
I fucking love zero plastic for putters. It's the best putting plastic!

There you go

 

[Lithicon]

Lies, there is nothing bad about the plastic. LOL, personal opinion is everything. But, the only problem anyone "COULD" have with it in general is that it's soft. For a putter this plastic doesn't wear, lol.

 

[JeremySW]

It's terrible that people hate R-Pro plastic. :? It's so grippy! I can't stand stiff putters, they always blow through the chains.. I can't understand why anyone wouldn't want a grippy putter. R-Pro isn't so soft it's completely floppy.

I guess that everyone from back in the day that didn't have really soft plastics can't get away from what their use to. :lol:
I fucking love R-Pro plastic for putters. It's the best putting plastic!

Just because it works for you doesn't mean that it should work for everyone else. You might think R-pro soft crap putters are the greatest things ever, but many people prefer stiff putters because of the consistent release and flight they have. I would wager that 95% of the top pros use firm putters - to me that means something. 8)

 

[Vegan Ray]

One man's crap is another man's butter.

 

[Vegan Ray]

I would wager that 95% of the top pros use firm putters - to me that means something.

Because your skill set is so similar to that of "95% of the top pros"? :lol:

 

[riverboy1]

I like soft putters but I was disappointed in the feel and durability of R-pro. So I agree with the majority that R-pro=shit. FLX=R-pro. :|

 

[Vegan Ray]

Soft putter lovers, hold your hats when the Vibram X-Link Soft Eco material hits the streets. I was a diehard hypersoft 3x JK Aviar man until I felt it & was IMMEDIATELY converted. The best-feeling putter plastic I have ever handled, & I've thrown 'em all.

 

[JeremySW]

I would wager that 95% of the top pros use firm putters - to me that means something.

Because your skill set is so similar to that of "95% of top pros"? :lol:

:lol: I know that's an easy zinger - But that isn't what I was getting at, at all(see my sig). I'm just stating that they are better putters than you and I both and the vast majority throw firm putters, so cheap shots aside - I put more faith into that than anecdotal love for R-pro. 8)

 

[Lithicon]

I haven't found that the equipment used shouldn't determine the release. I believe if you have good form, your release is going to be almost identical regardless. I've used a lot of putters, and my release is always the same no matter what putter I use. I can put just as well with Aviar's as I do with Darts. But, the Darts are softer, and grap the chains WAY better.
The plastic doesn't affect the release in a putter. Soft drivers I could see if affecting release, but that's a whole other story.

Just because it works for you doesn't mean that it should work for everyone else. You might think R-pro soft crap putters are the greatest things ever, but many people prefer stiff putters because of the consistent release and flight they have. I would wager that 95% of the top pros use firm putters - to me that means something. 8)

I never said it "should" work for everyone. I stated personal preferance is pretty obvious. But, the plastic it's self isn't terrible. I'm saying that people give them a bad wrap, just because it's a softer plastic.
Why do you think some of the pro's go to softer plastic? JK Aviars.... LOL

 

[Lithicon]

What do you mean the durability? Unless you're full forcing driving these into a tree from 5'. R-pro has immense durabilty.
I use 175 R-Pro's for driving and approaching, and even in some of the rockiest places has never gouged out like DX plastic. The most I've seen is scuffs and a few little scratch marks from tree's and rocks. I don't see how anyone can say R-pro is less durable than DX. R-pro always goes back to it's shape, and doesn't lose dome either. I know some of these other plastics do.

 

[riverboy1]

What do you mean the durability? Unless you're full forcing driving these into a tree from 5'. R-pro has immense durabilty.
I use 175 R-Pro's for driving and approaching, and even in some of the rockiest places has never gouged out like DX plastic. The most I've seen is scuffs and a few little scratch marks from tree's and rocks. I don't see how anyone can say R-pro is less durable than DX. R-pro always goes back to it's shape, and doesn't lose dome either. I know some of these other plastics do.

Lucky you. For putting R-pro holds up fine but if you drive with it you can expect some rather quick beat downs. And if possible I like to drive with putters.

 

[Jesse B 707]

soft putters are shit. end of discussion

 

[Jody Mitchell]

soft putters are shit. end of discussion

*Opens discussion again*...I agree...*Closes discussion again*

 

[JeremySW]

soft putters are shit. end of discussion

Haha, and I get flamed for saying "its all preference and Pro's like Firmies" :lol:

 

[Lithicon]

What do you mean the durability? Unless you're full forcing driving these into a tree from 5'. R-pro has immense durabilty.
I use 175 R-Pro's for driving and approaching, and even in some of the rockiest places has never gouged out like DX plastic. The most I've seen is scuffs and a few little scratch marks from tree's and rocks. I don't see how anyone can say R-pro is less durable than DX. R-pro always goes back to it's shape, and doesn't lose dome either. I know some of these other plastics do.

Lucky you. For putting R-pro holds up fine but if you drive with it you can expect some rather quick beat downs. And if possible I like to drive with putters.

Lol, perhaps you're not reading everything. I say in this post that I clearly use R-Pro's for driving.

 

[RoomTenONine]

Lies, there is nothing bad about the plastic. LOL, personal opinion is everything. But, the only problem anyone "COULD" have with it in general is that it's soft. For a putter this plastic doesn't wear, lol.

It isn't so much that there is a putter in R-Pro. Its that they took a very awesome putter in a unique plastic and completely destroyed what was so great about the disc by subbing in the R-Pro.