[Innova] The NEW Bottom stamp star destroyers

[QuinnAA199]

Anybody try them yet? How they fly?

I have a few questions about them in general also.

Are the new run bottom stamp destroyers limited run?
Are the new aj destroyers marked *ds?
Is it possible that the new bottom stamps are from old run?
In general star destroyers what is more sought out after s/d or *d. S/ds or *ds

Appreciate the help.

 

[JTacoma03]

@the general destroyer questions:

From what I understand talking to people who actually know what's going on...Destroyer characteristics are waaaaay too generalized (i.e. "pre-avery" and "avery" as a distinction, it literally only tells us one detail of the disc but people act like it's the damn defining trait).

*typically* and it's not always the case even as I type this - SDS or S/DS are the most sought after because it denotes a special blend. However, the Destroyer is a disc that Innova likes to tinker with so results still may vary.

 

[greendiscs]

I cant say much about the destroyers, but i am trying out the new bottom stamped bosses, they remind me of "pro bosses" with the dome on them, and also it seems to be made out of a new "hybrid" style plastic. I had previously purchased some "hybrid star" bosses to try out, and the new bottlm stamp run bosses have a very similar plastic blend. The bosses also have a ton of glide. I guess to bring this back to the destroyer conversation, are the destroyers made of this "hybrid-esque" plastic?

 

[volkswagen]

my bottom stamp mako has more dome than my other stars, but nowhere near as domey as the old champs!

 

[Lurp Nuts]

I cant say much about the destroyers, but i am trying out the new bottom stamped bosses, they remind me of "pro bosses" with the dome on them, and also it seems to be made out of a new "hybrid" style plastic. I had previously purchased some "hybrid star" bosses to try out, and the new bottlm stamp run bosses have a very similar plastic blend. The bosses also have a ton of glide. I guess to bring this back to the destroyer conversation, are the destroyers made of this "hybrid-esque" plastic?

hybrid of what? pro and champ?

 

[techn9cian4life]

I just know I'm seeing them all over Ebay Haha One seller was even trying to pass them off as a "Pre-Avery *DS" which I found funny. If it were a few months ago I'd be really wanting to try one because I was a huge Destroyer fan but now I've disced down to Wraiths and only carry 1 champ Destroyer in my bag compared to the 4 Destroyers total a few months ago. Like JTacoma mentioned, SDS and S/DS are the more sought after Destroyers cause I believe they're one of the first runs of star Destroyers. I myself was a fan of the Pre-Avery *DS'. Threw a Pre-Avery *D a few times, and I don't know if it was because it was decently beat in, but it was pretty flippy with a crashing fade.. wasn't a fan. Havent gotten to try an SDS or a S/DS, but I wouldn't mind if I ever came across one.

 

[notroman]

I just know I'm seeing them all over Ebay Haha One seller was even trying to pass them off as a "Pre-Avery *DS" which I found funny. If it were a few months ago I'd be really wanting to try one because I was a huge Destroyer fan but now I've disced down to Wraiths and only carry 1 champ Destroyer in my bag compared to the 4 Destroyers total a few months ago. Like JTacoma mentioned, SDS and S/DS are the more sought after Destroyers cause I believe they're one of the first runs of star Destroyers. I myself was a fan of the Pre-Avery *DS'. Threw a Pre-Avery *D a few times, and I don't know if it was because it was decently beat in, but it was pretty flippy with a crashing fade.. wasn't a fan. Havent gotten to try an SDS or a S/DS, but I wouldn't mind if I ever came across one.

The earlier runs closer to first runs were the *D. SDS and S/DS didn't come until much later.

 

[g2avity]

I don't think S/D or S/DS are earlier runs. I'm pretty sure the *Ds & *DSs were the earlier runs.

 

[g2avity]

And from my understanding, the markings on the back in no way denote a specific mold, so you'll find flippy and OS *Ds, *DSs, etc.

 

[Lurp Nuts]

I don't think S/D or S/DS are earlier runs. I'm pretty sure the *Ds & *DSs were the earlier runs.

i had a proto star SD and a few pre avery S/DS, not completely sure about *DS but i think that came even later.

back on topic - how bout them bottom stamps???

 

[Ln108DD2]

What i thought the markings for destroyers came as *D, SDS, SD/S, *DS pre Avery, *DS Avery. What i thought not sure if it is true.
Also stability can never really be determined by the markings to me since ive had both flippy/stable SD/S destroyers which are said to be the most stable of the runs

 

[Kingace]

So destroyers are really inconsistent...?

 

[notroman]

So destroyers are really inconsistent...?

Unfortunately.

 

[Ln108DD2]

Yes but i still love them!!

 

[QuinnAA199]

I just ordered a bottom stamp *ds. In sick dayglo. :/

 

[steve a]

All this talk about how the bottom was marked is making me lmfao.

 

[thugjitsu]

These are massively overstable like the old marbled pop tops, and none of that vulcanized crud from what I've seen.

 

[New013]

stamp on the back?... let's just call these things tramp stamps from now on.

 

[QuinnAA199]

stamp on the back?... let's just call these things tramp stamps from now on.

And that's what they shall be called.

 

[JTacoma03]

Let's clear the air...

Looking at 2 destroyers, one with *DS and one with S/DS will not necessarily tell you chronology. It's not a series where they changed the markings over time. They may denote RUNS of destroyers which, as we've discussed, vary substantially. The S/DS in my bag was made in 2011 (Patrick Brown summer fundraiser). The confounding factor here though, is that many more runs are marked *DS than anything else (S/DS for example), so that alone won't necessarily tell you which run that particular disc is from either.

As for the pre/post-Avery differentiation: When he chose the mold as a signature disc, they had a large stock of blank destroyers from a particularly popular run which they put his sig on. Then the next time they molded up a new batch of destroyers they weren't the same - I believe this time they came out flatter, where the big arms tend to prefer the poppy top style. However the most recent run of Destroyers has more dome/pop to them like the first run where they stamped Avery's sig on it.


Destroyers are a mold that gets tweaked constantly...and evidently molds up differently as well, so with that combination you get a variance in their flagship big-arm distance driver. That said, if you're looking for the SWEET ones that the pros such as Patrick Brown, Avery Jenkins, and Nikko like/liked - find stiffer, poppy top, S/DS ones with a slight marble to the plastic.